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Thanks for posting that link. I still don't get how they generate enough to meet the criteria

As much as they rent the facilities at Carrington off City, I believe they then charge all visiting European teams to train there for Champions & Europa League matches? Not sure how many use it but could be a nice little earner for them?

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One of the key pieces of information from that article relating to Bury appears to be:

 

However the Football League use a is broader definition of Turnover. Crucially, the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing club debts. up club debts. In League 1 and League 2, a wealthy owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in other divisions.

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The problem for Bury will be if they fail to go up...

 

Chris Moore syndrome. The owner gets sick of putting cash in and pulls out of the club leaving a league 1 side with low crowds & a top of the Championship wage bill.

 

This scenario is so easily solved but the authorities domn't seem able to grasp it. If an indiviudal wants to fund a club beyond its natural means they should be required to put up a bond which would enable the club to wind down its expanded salary bill in an orderly fashion if they lose interest.

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This scenario is so easily solved but the authorities domn't seem able to grasp it. If an indiviudal wants to fund a club beyond its natural means they should be required to put up a bond which would enable the club to wind down its expanded salary bill in an orderly fashion if they lose interest.

A sensible and pragmatic solution.

 

The authorities that run football (collectively).

 

I think I can see the problem here.

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Since I've posted the original question I've been told that the main way that Bury get around things is to agree terms with a player and them pay some of it as a signing on fee and then pay a reduced wage.

It would change when the expenditure would hit but it would still be 'salary' or renumeration for the player.

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This scenario is so easily solved but the authorities domn't seem able to grasp it. If an indiviudal wants to fund a club beyond its natural means they should be required to put up a bond which would enable the club to wind down its expanded salary bill in an orderly fashion if they lose interest.

I think they should be required to give a long term forecast to show that their investment is not short termist and that they have a plan b. A bond is a barrier to invesent and might be illegal. With any investment their is a degree of risk after all (as is not investing and I'm not sure why owners who don't do that are somehow responsible). Edited by jimsleftfoot
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I think they should be required to give a long term forecast to show that their investment is not short termist and that they have a plan b. A bond is a barrier to invesent and might be illegal. With any investment their is a degree of risk after all (as is not investing and I'm not sure why owners who don't do that are somehow responsible).

It might be a barrier to investment, but it might stop precisely the investments that are the riskiest.

It could be done during the investment period ie ongoing, with a proportion of the fee and wages, with a higher (not excessively so) starting point.

The less risky investors will be less afdected, as they are not investing beyond their means.

It would be to prevent a far too common problem, so it is less of a worry to stifling investment.

 

Surely some sort of surety or guarantor money is not illegal.

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I think they should be required to give a long term forecast to show that their investment is not short termist and that they have a plan b. A bond is a barrier to invesent and might be illegal. With any investment their is a degree of risk after all (as is not investing and I'm not sure why owners who don't do that are somehow responsible).

 

Illegal? How so? Travel agents manage it!

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I think they should be required to give a long term forecast to show that their investment is not short termist and that they have a plan b. A bond is a barrier to invesent and might be illegal. With any investment their is a degree of risk after all (as is not investing and I'm not sure why owners who don't do that are somehow responsible).

 

Unfortunately I don't think long term forecasts or plans are any solution. You'd just make one up. Premier League in five years!

 

A bond would seem a reasonable requirement to me.

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Unfortunately I don't think long term forecasts or plans are any solution. You'd just make one up. Premier League in five years!

 

A bond would seem a reasonable requirement to me.

The long term plan would be like what you had to do with the student advisor at the bank when you wanted to extend your overdraft so that you could blow it all on cheap white cider
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Keith hill was going on about budgets again after their game against bury. Started saying that bury have now gotten a lot of sponsorship deals done, which is obviously helping fund their squad.

 

Maybe they aren't in as much trouble as people make out, all though I can't imagine they have got sponsorship deals as good as ours (e.g. sportsdirect).

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