singe Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Dunn is not going to be sacked any time soon. He may be able to do some business in the transfer window, and I think he will be given that (justified or not), even if we are adrift at the foot of the table. So what can we do? The rest of this week before Crewe Till January In the transfer window Suggestions I have seen The rest of this week before Crewe Tony P in to help Get Winchester in the side Recall Rhys Murphy (if we can) Till January Get a big CB on loan Get RB & Mid on loan Experienced Asst Mgr Replace Holden, if there is someone out there. Bring back Murray. Wish we could coach Grant Mccann! In the transfer window New keeper New RB Recall Rhys Murphy (if we can't before loan runs out) Proven striker Edited November 25, 2015 by singe
HarryBosch Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Dunn is not going to be sacked any time soon. He may be able to do some business in the transfer window, and I think he will be given that, even if we are adrift at the foot of the table. So what can we do? The rest of this week before Crewe Till January In the transfer window Suggestions I have seen The rest of this week before Crewe Tony P in to help Get Winchester in the side Recall Rhys Murphy (if we can) Till January Get a big CB on loan Get RB & Mid on loan Experienced Asst Mgr Replace Holden, if there is someone out there. Bring back Murray. Wish we could coach Grant Mccann! In the transfer window New keeper New RB Recall Rhys Murphy (if we can't before loan runs out) Proven striker Change whatever the :censored: those tactics are supposed to be that we start every game with. Change whatever it is that's happening, or isn't happening, on the training ground because this is the worst drilled Oldham side I've seen. That's where last nights mistakes came from. Get the players motivated and playing for the manager. All this "not playing for the shirt" bollocks is just that - bollocks. Footballers haven't done that for years now, sadly. They're not playing for the manager, that's the problem. If he can't do any of that replace him. Letting him spend a single penny on bringing new players in to become lesser players under this training regime & these tactics would be utter madness.
HarryBosch Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) And Corney needs to tell him that he needs to do a lot more than he is with this group of players if he wants to a) make it to January and/or b ) be allowed to make signings in January. We've had far worse squads of players drilled & organised to a far higher standard than these lot are under Dunn. Penney, for example. We never did as badly against opposition as poor/middling as Southend/Barnsley under him. I don't even remember us being this disorganised under Dickov. Edited November 25, 2015 by HarryBosch
rigsby Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Heres an idea, fook Poleon right off,another stealing a living. If he's a footballer i'm diego maradona.
BP1960 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Too many shrinking violets, bring in some tougher characters.
HarryBosch Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Heres an idea, fook Poleon right off,another stealing a living. If he's a footballer i'm diego maradona. He was bad last night but he's far from our worst player. He does alright 2 out of 3 games despite usually carrying out a thankless task...
rigsby Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 He was bad last night but he's far from our worst player. He does alright 2 out of 3 games despite usually carrying out a thankless task... Fair enough, personally he's gash for me. Runs round like a headless chicken and has little or zero composure on the ball, not that he's on his own i might add.
pinevillawill Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Heres an idea, fook Poleon right off,another stealing a living. If he's a footballer i'm diego maradona. Poleon is hardly the root of our problems.
bozman Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 They're just not putting the effort in that's required, whether that's because they don't want to play fo the manager,which I'm starting to believe, or for some other reason. It was abundantly clear in the last 2 home games that the passion and desire to win the game was not there. Second to every ball, not pressing and closing down the opposition like they did to us. They just didnt want to win as much as the opposition. I was speaking to a Burton player who lives near me recently. They have a small budget and he's not on a big wage by any stretch of the imagination. I asked him what he though the difference was between us and them. He said fitness and desire. Hasselbaink works them so hard in training that they were going home completely broken in pre-season, but they're really feeling the benefit now. And they absolutely love him. They would all run through brick walls for him and their biggest fear is letting him down with a poor performance. So I think the solution is that we need to somehow instill that mindset in to the players we have. I think that's more important than shipping some out and bringing more in.
rigsby Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Poleon is hardly the root of our problems. I know that, but he's :censored:.So whys he playing
singe Posted November 25, 2015 Author Posted November 25, 2015 They're just not putting the effort in that's required, whether that's because they don't want to play fo the manager,which I'm starting to believe, or for some other reason. It was abundantly clear in the last 2 home games that the passion and desire to win the game was not there. Second to every ball, not pressing and closing down the opposition like they did to us. They just didnt want to win as much as the opposition. I was speaking to a Burton player who lives near me recently. They have a small budget and he's not on a big wage by any stretch of the imagination. I asked him what he though the difference was between us and them. He said fitness and desire. Hasselbaink works them so hard in training that they were going home completely broken in pre-season, but they're really feeling the benefit now. And they absolutely love him. They would all run through brick walls for him and their biggest fear is letting him down with a poor performance. So I think the solution is that we need to somehow instill that mindset in to the players we have. I think that's more important than shipping some out and bringing more in. Very interesting that, cheers for the insight. The million dollar question is whether any of the players would ever run through brick walls for Dunn. I guess it is about respecting the manager, the manager having some sort of pedigree and the personality to match that. Something no powerpoint could ever overcome.
NewBlue Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 -Hard-nose, bollocks-squeezing centre-half -Reunite the Jones and Kelly partnership. :censored: Fulton off. -Murphy return. A player with confidence and form. -Cassidy return. A player who had confidence and form. -Goalkeeper that can catch a ball. -Some leadership at the top of the club, in the management and on the pitch
rigsby Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 -Hard-nose, bollocks-squeezing centre-half -Reunite the Jones and Kelly partnership. :censored: Fulton off. -Murphy return. A player with confidence and form. -Cassidy return. A player who had confidence and form. -Goalkeeper that can catch a ball. -Some leadership at the top of the club, in the management and on the pitch Agreed with pretty much all that
leeslover Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Add to that that Philliskirk she not play in midfield if Winchester is available and we're making a start. I'm not honestly sure we're desperate for a centre half, we need to be playing the game further away from whoever is at the back.
Senor_Coconut Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Why would Murphey want to come back, he's scoring for fun and close to home at the moment, would you want to come back and play for this guy?
pinevillawill Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Why would Murphey want to come back, he's scoring for fun and close to home at the moment, would you want to come back and play for this guy? It doesn't matter what Murphy wants. He's an Oldham player.
bluear Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 It doesn't matter what Murphy wants. He's an Oldham player. Unless a deal has been arranged for permanent in Jan
singe Posted November 25, 2015 Author Posted November 25, 2015 It doesn't matter what Murphy wants. He's an Oldham player. Unless a deal has been arranged for permanent in Jan I guess it's possible we could have agreed no recall as well..
Senor_Coconut Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 It doesn't matter what Murphy wants. He's an Oldham player. With only a few months left on his contract.
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Play behind closed doors at home. I guarantee we'll improve at home that way. They could beam the match to all the local pubs in Oldham. Change nothing away from home. The problem isn't there.
pinevillawill Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Change nothing away from home. The problem isn't there. I think you've hit the nail on the head. We look like an away team at home.
danoafc Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 -Hard-nose, bollocks-squeezing centre-half -Reunite the Jones and Kelly partnership. :censored: Fulton off. -Murphy return. A player with confidence and form. -Cassidy return. A player who had confidence and form. -Goalkeeper that can catch a ball. -Some leadership at the top of the club, in the management and on the pitch Definitely agree with the bits in bold. And I'd bring Murphy back if possible but there are a number of factors to consider there. Cassidy (and Forte) will be back when ready/fit. Nothing the club/manager can do about that at the minute. Beyond that we need to look at the full backs. The RB slot has been an issue for a while and Mills is currently as poor an excuse for a player as I've seen for a long time. And what has happened to Croft? Why has he ballooned? If that's a lack of professionalism take him to Tandle Hill Park and run him til he throws up every day until he shapes up.
wogghead1 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 -Hard-nose, bollocks-squeezing centre-half -Reunite the Jones and Kelly partnership. :censored: Fulton off. -Murphy return. A player with confidence and form. -Cassidy return. A player who had confidence and form. -Goalkeeper that can catch a ball. -Some leadership at the top of the club, in the management and on the pitch Tick X 6
disjointed Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Poleon is hardly the root of our problems. No, but he contributes to the sum of our problems.
disjointed Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Play behind closed doors at home. I guarantee we'll improve at home that way. They could beam the match to all the local pubs in Oldham. Change nothing away from home. The problem isn't there. There are plenty of pubs going out of business as it is, could be the death knell for a few more.
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