Guest nonaenever Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Can someone please complain about the amount of time Robinson's hands were in his pockets (either too much or too little I don't mind) then I think we'll have had a full house of standard owtb post-:censored: game 'we're doomed' gripes. We have won one game all season and "scored" 4 goals (one an own goal in our only win). Lately, the football has been very poor. Are we supposed to shout from the rooftops or is it that some on here have been on too many of those American style "positive mental attitude" courses at work? When it's good; praise will be lavished upon the management team and players; when it's bad there will (and should be) negative reactions. How many games you been to this season by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Can someone please complain about the amount of time Robinson's hands were in his pockets (either too much or too little I don't mind) then I think we'll have had a full house of standard owtb post-:censored: game 'we're doomed' gripes. Think he actually looked away from the pitch at one point. If he'd have been concentrating wed have won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 We have won one game all season and "scored" 4 goals (one an own goal in our only win). Lately, the football has been very poor. Are we supposed to shout from the rooftops or is it that some on here have been on too many of those American style "positive mental attitude" courses at work? When it's good; praise will be lavished upon the management team and players; when it's bad there will (and should be) negative reactions. How many games you been to this season by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 You're right, it was all good. We have won one game all season and "scored" 4 goals (one an own goal in our only win). Lately, the football has been very poor. Are we supposed to shout from the rooftops or is it that some on here have been on too many of those American style "positive mental attitude" courses at work? When it's good; praise will be lavished upon the management team and players; when it's bad there will (and should be) negative reactions. How many games you been to this season by the way? Come on lads, don't be like that. I've already ticked off these reasons for losing... 1. Clipboards 2. Asset-stripping 3. Silly modern gadgets they didn't need back in'daaay 4. Fans moaning about fans moaning Only one more to go. I think I'd be ok with he was waving his arms too much/too little. And I've not been able to get to a game this season, not one! I know this automatically disqualifies me from having an opinion on anything (even a lighthearted one) but I'm pretty glad about it to be honest. I get depressed enough listening to the inevitable on Latics Player, god knows what I'd be like if I went to a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Spot on. 4 goals scored in 9 games played is abysmal. Won't exactly bring the crowds flocking back to BP! I've been to 3 home league games and not seen a goal yet! How crap is that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witty Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 With the exceptions of Connor Ripley - who prevented a 4 or 5-0 loss, Peter Clarke, and possibly Cameron Burgess. We are performing like a team made up of players who have been released by their previous clubs because they weren't good enough, or free agents who weren't signed by anyone, again because they weren't seen as good enough. We have got a team that is virtually full of that calibre of player. Absolutely spot on and to the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 :censored: me, pass the rope...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Thank you! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 HarryBosch ..... We'll pass it you at Christmas when we will already be virtually down. When will people realise that you can't win games if you don't score goals. 4 goals in 9 games so far suggests yet another relegation battle. Might be one that we don't get out of this time though. ⚽️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 HarryBosch ..... We'll pass it you at Christmas when we will already be virtually down. When will people realise that you can't win games if you don't score goals. 4 goals in 9 games so far suggests yet another relegation battle. Might be one that we don't get out of this time though. ⚽️ Hey come on, you've got to remain positive at all times, and never ever say a word against the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) 11/10 for relegation if anyone fancies it. 6/1 to finish bottom. Or for the glass half full brigade 66/1 to be promoted or 250/1 to be Champions. ------------ Lee Erwin top goal scorer is 225/1 8th best in the betting is non other than Dom Poleon at 40/1 he was 200/1 a couple of weeks ago. ------------ Edited September 26, 2016 by yarddog73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hey come on, you've got to remain positive at all times, and never ever say a word against the club. Funny, if you dont completly agree with the 'moaners' in full you get abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I care passionately about Latics - they have been a part of my life since I was 4 years old. However, I'm not going to pretend things are good or "will come good" when the evidence in front of my eyes says otherwise. The happy clappers and those with constantly rose-tinted spectacles don't do the club any favours; you actually send out a message that mediocrity is fine. The manager himself is certainly changing his tune too. Gone from positive talk like "we have our aims this season but we'll keep them under wraps" to negative talk like (in the Chron today) "This is a club with no money.... we're a club that struggles for survival". Clearly, passionate fans get negative too. I will credit Robinson with taking a lot of the responsibility for that latest shambles of a performance (and don't forget Chesterfield was nearly as bad). The massive question mark for me is this; is HE capable of changing or is he so indoctrinated into the "Northern Ireland" way that he will simply persist stubbornly? (not so much with players but with the most negative approach to football games ever seen at BP). If he doesn't change his approach we really are doomed - I`m not bothered what anyone says - the evidence is there for all to see if they care to open their eyes instead of "the emperor's new clothes" approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 11/10 for relegation if anyone fancies it. 6/1 to finish bottom. Or for the glass half full brigade 66/1 to be promoted or 250/1 to be Champions. ------------ Lee Erwin top goal scorer is 225/1 8th best in the betting is non other than Dom Poleon at 40/1 he was 200/1 a couple of weeks ago. ------------ What are the odds of us finishing somewhere between 7th and 20th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Funny, if you dont completly agree with the 'moaners' in full you get abuse. What abuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Who could have guessed that the relegation favourites with a rookie manager and a team of strangers might not be taking the league by storm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Who could have guessed that the relegation favourites with a rookie manager and a team of strangers might not be taking the league by storm? Who would accept a rookie manager (is this the same guy who's been described as a key target / a motivator / tactician) and a team full of strangers (who are all better than Kelly / Holloway etc) would be a perfectly acceptable set up and no reason to level any criticism at the club? You're contorting your statements into a complete tangle just to avoid accepting that things are not currently working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Who would accept a rookie manager (is this the same guy who's been described as a key target / a motivator / tactician) and a team full of strangers (who are all better than Kelly / Holloway etc) would be a perfectly acceptable set up and no reason to level any criticism at the club? You're contorting your statements into a complete tangle just to avoid accepting that things are not currently working. Any luck getting those Trust membership numbers yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 When will people realise that you can't win games if you don't score goals. Thank you Michael Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 HarryBosch ..... We'll pass it you at Christmas when we will already be virtually down. When will people realise that you can't win games if you don't score goals. 4 goals in 9 games so far suggests yet another relegation battle. Might be one that we don't get out of this time though. ⚽️ Is it OK with you for me to have thought we were utterly :censored:ing :censored: (again) on Saturday but, at the same time, to remain quietly optimistic that our manager can still turn an up and down (mainly down) first 9 games into a half decent season? Or are the two mutually exclusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Is it OK with you for me to have thought we were utterly :censored:ing :censored: (again) on Saturday but, at the same time, to remain quietly optimistic that our manager can still turn an up and down (mainly down) first 9 games into a half decent season? Or are the two mutually exclusive? Your quiet optimism deserves some admiration. I only wish I had the same but honestly can't see how our manager is going to turn it around - I really, really do hope I am proven wrong - the next half a dozen fixtures have suddenly become critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Your quiet optimism deserves some admiration. I only wish I had the same but honestly can't see how our manager is going to turn it around - I really, really do hope I am proven wrong - the next half a dozen fixtures have suddenly become critical. Does it? Why? We've played 9 games. We were doing better than many expected just 3 or 4 games ago. We were never able to say that under Dunn. Other managers have started as badly, if not worse, after inheriting a relatively settled squad. He's done a competent job so far given the circumstances, therefore, logic dictates if he continues to as the players gel and get more familiar with each other and SR's instructions we'll be alright... Edited September 26, 2016 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Does it? Why? We've played 9 games. We were doing better than many expected just 3 or 4 games ago. We were never able to say that under Dunn. I think there was quiet optimism around, after we beat Wigun, the win at Bury and an excellent draw at Bradford. Unfortunately we have failed to kick on from there and we appear to be deteriorating rather than improving. Saturday was truly awful, we were very soundly beaten and where second best in every department, the 0-0 at home to Chesterfield and the home defeat by Shrewsbury were also very poor performances. We appear to set up very defensively and tight, which is okay away from home, but we are doing the same at BP when the onus (as the home team) is to take the game to the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I think there was quiet optimism around, after we beat Wigun, the win at Bury and an excellent draw at Bradford. Unfortunately we have failed to kick on from there and we appear to be deteriorating rather than improving. Saturday was truly awful, we were very soundly beaten and where second best in every department, the 0-0 at home to Chesterfield and the home defeat by Shrewsbury were also very poor performances. We appear to set up very defensively and tight, which is okay away from home, but we are doing the same at BP when the onus (as the home team) is to take the game to the opposition. Most sensible football folk stopped caring about home and away about 10 years ago, keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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