Andy b Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Well worth a read. I’d encourage anyone interested in Latics to consider some of the points raised. The fight is with the structure of football as much as it is with the owner of our club. https://cles.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/democratising-football.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Looking at the authors... I’ll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Looking at the authors... I’ll pass. No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 21 hours ago, kowenicki said: Looking at the authors... I’ll pass. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Putting aside the pythonesque neoliberal capitalist stuff it’s a thought provoking paper and a reminder, as if we needed one, that football is headed in the wrong direction and the demise of Bury is only the start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Some interesting ideas. At times the authors get a bit too carried away by their obviously anti-capitalist, Marxist views of how the economy and society at large should operate. Their view on women’s football - that female professionals should get the same pay as men - is unrealistic - the support base isn’t there. But overall, football is a universe of its own and ideally all clubs should be fan/member owned. Very difficult to see how we get there unless the current model implodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Their view on women’s football - that female professionals should get the same pay as men - is unrealistic - the support base isn’t there. Thanks for highlighting that as it's saved me reading it. Nonsensical position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Doesn't do much for their credibility when the very first sentence of the Executive Summary doesn't make any sense... The last paragraph of the report also refers to someone called "Bill Shanky"...? Do people not proof-read these things?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 18 hours ago, pk200 said: ?? Not a lover of Marxists and luxury communists. You’d think they would have got the message by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 20 hours ago, Worcester Owl said: Their view on women’s football - that female professionals should get the same pay as men - is unrealistic - the support base isn’t there. Glad l read this thread before clicking the link. Ridiculous idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinchy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 imo the best thing they could do is move to paying players through the governing bodies Premier League, EFL, UEFA, FIFA, PFA. Rather than paying the players through the clubs themselves, this would involve the tv monies paid to clubs reducing as there playing budgets reduce. This would have to be done on a rolling basis initially with free agents and youth players signing up contracts first, it'd take only 5 years and everyone would be on the new system. Transfer windows work like the draft in American football to only pick up players the teams actually want and the larger clubs can still buy success by paying/exchanging picks with the smaller teams. The pay could be controlled and structured across the board whilst keeping a role for agents as you'd still need a middleman to push players at clubs. This would increase competition, prevent clubs from amassing crazy debt levels and ensure the wealth at the top trickles down as was intended when the prem was formed. Sadly it'll never happen, too many vested interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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