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If my memory serves me right I don't even think it was in the box!!!!

I suspect this will clear the way for Byrne to leave. welcome back Jose.

Nearly everybody has!!!!

What's really sad is, The squad looks the poorest we've had for many a few years. Sadly it's probably the best we've got right now!!!!!

Welcome back, Always been my favourite away day ever since it was my first solo away day back in the 60s. Friday night , train to Liverpool then ferry over to the cow shed and we won 1-0. Never missed a match there between us since so nice to be going back. Hope you finish second next season behind us?

I think your dead right about time to absorb what's happened. I would think AL must have a fair idea if he wants to stick with RW or not. If so then he would probably sit down with him to discuss the best steps forward. If not then sit down with him and find out what he thinks needs sorting then get rid and get someone that can sort it !!!!

I started supporting latics in the old 4th div & we had to apply for re-election. Don't know why most are whinging about relegation, we've had 21 years in league 1 and the vast majority of it has been spent fighting relegation. Most of the football has been dire except for a couple of seasons flirting with the play offs. The last 6-7 years have been bordering on suicidal and now we have finally had the trapdoor opened on us. Something had to give as we can't go on as we are and one of 2 things will happen now. 1/ regroup and AL and some new directors can invest so we come back stronger. 2/ we do a Chesterfield and drop again. Personally I think AL was fully aware of the problems and getting relegated , whilst not in his plans , wasn't going to stop his long term plans. I think this week will show what future we can expect next season !!

Agree with that, don't think Wellens accepted we were in a relegation battle until it was too late. We need AL to sort the backroom side out and a new manager, I was supportive of RW when he first took over and although he made mistakes, as all new managers do, he made the cardinal sin by not learning from them. He became arrogant that his way was right. Not only has he proved he is tactically inept he obviously can't motivate players. Besides Blackburn away we allowed the opposition to dominate the first 20min of every game then inevitably found ourselves one or two down. The biggest sin for me though was his handling of Doyle & Byrne. We have a proven goalscorer in Doyle yet game after game he nullified him by playing Nazon. I know Nazon scored a few goals but I think Doyle would have scored more without Nazon. Then we have Byrne one of the best creative midfielders in league 1 and we constantly play him wide. I know we have many off field problems but the bottom line is RW sets the team up and sends them out. The squad was good enough to stay in league 1 but the manager wasn't. Time clear out the dead wood and regroup to build for the future based on producing youth and not journey men. Not bothered what league were in i just want to see us play more entertaining football and actually look from the ko that we want to win the game.

Pointless poll really because RW is 100% to blame and is totally useless tactically so any one that can vote to keep him can't be a latics fan!!!

I think an early goal by latics will take a lot of the fight out of Northampton. The second will kill them off completely. A lot of disappointed Dale fans by 6 oclock tomorrow night

Charlton can't afford to be lax because they could easily lose 2 or 3 nil if they do. Wouldn't take much for Plymouth to turn that around then I wouldn't like to be in Bowyers shoes if that happened. This has all the makings of a draw!!!

How can they , imagine if they did and lost! !!!

Would you risk not making the play offs!!!!

There is no way Charlton will go into the game not looking to win it. They can't settle for a draw because they know one moment from Dale could lose them the game. Then imagine how they would feel if they find that Plymouth have won 5-0. With even the slightest chance of being caught then Charlton will want to win.

Listened to Lee Bowyer yesterday on radio, says he wont even watch game tonight as not interested in result. Only thoughts are concentrating on winning Saturday!!!

Plymouth going for the playoffs, shows what a poor league it is. Offered nothing yet going forward, nearly as bad as latics!!!

I've seen Dale 4 times this year and each time they have looked a far better team than us BUT they're still below us!!!!

Agree, Just hope for once we can score first. Do that & I think we will take a lot of the wind out of their sails. Got a horrible feeling though that we will have to rely on Charlton.

Latics said this morning they are receiving a large number of enquiries for extra tickets. Now they have another 500 they say you can have 4 !!!! Surely if they had that many enquiries then limit it it to 2.

Some points for Sat- Northampton will be a totally different team to the one at BP. Also relegated teams are dangerous to play as all the fear has gone. Dale will have their main man back in Henderson. Charlton may only need a draw, depending on Tues. Latics haven't won since Easter Monday. Teams starting Nor have relegated us the last 3 times My heart tells me Latics win 3-0 & all's well. Head tells me Dale 0-0 latics lose 1-0. Let's hope my heart rules my head.

Been a S/T holder at BP for over 50 years & only been to OT once & that was to watch latics? And Wellens is still arrogant.

Thought Wellens we the right choice at the time but as time has gone on its becoming more of a bad choice. Tactically inept and suffers from stubbornness that then highlights the ineptness . He also appears to have become arrogant from what was honest assessments to now blaming others and offering excuses. It's now become clearly a case of can others keep us in league one because we are now incapable of winning a game. Also think that Wellens has never accepted we are in a relegation battle until this week and it was too late. Over the last 4 home games he can't see that Nazon & Doyle doesn't work but his stubbornness won't allow him to change it. He's got to go back to a similar line up to the Northampton home game and get more forward momentum from midfield. We scored 5 in that game and Doyle didn't get on the score sheet. Let's hope that Charlton do the job for us.

The first season I watched latics we had to apply for re-election in the 4th division. I have seen us rise to the premier league & nearly back. The 4th division was a whole lot different in those days, double figure gates, free flowing football & goals. I don't want to see us back there because I can see us doing a Chesterfield with no re-election to save us. I just hope that Wellens luckily gets it right for next Saturday then goes but I think that it will inevitably come down to what Charlton do.

The more I hear Wellens the more arrogant he sounds. Whatever league were in next season I hope he isn't with us.

Could do with a Plymouth win or draw at Scunny on Tues as that would mean Charlton have to win at Dale to ensure play off. Even if Plymouth did lose Charlton would still need a point. Think I may go to Dale as a Charlton fan as I just can't see us winning any game at the moment and Dale losing is our only chance!!!