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I can't speak to what the resource levels are like internally at Latics these days, but with Big Gordy not around (irrespective of his change in role) and the constantly shrinking budget I'd be astounded if there's more than when I was there. Which for context, in terms of non-voluntary and full time employees, was... Me. Mike, Roy and others all chipped in with time and a hell of a lot of effort, but were not there Monday to Friday. For what it's worth, seeing as I've not ranted about it for a long while, I was on well-below minimum wage when you accounted for the hours worked. Again, I am sure the current folks are just as stretched, and most days were 7 until 5 without any real break, midweek games that would be 7 until 11, obviously I worked all Saturdays and at least a few hours each Sunday, editing highlights on a laptop slow as hell. Still got slagged off for missing a letter or dropping a comma out of place, of course. Oh, and the part of the site in question is indeed outsourced. You could chase them in my day, to correct it, but that was often like talking to yourself. Alan H was usually the one to have success with that, as it was the kind of thing which infuriated him and he had more senior contacts at the vendor. Hope that helps cut the new folks some slack.

I found that Chonburi (sp?) shirt you gave me 8 (!!!) years ago the other day, when home for Christmas and sorting out a pile of stuff at my folks' place... had a nice little moment of reflection!

And yet, true. We mentioned it above, the bills are still coming in and the money really isn't. So, we can let people troll (really meek trolling, at that) and expedite the demise. Or you can act civilised towards people trying to do a nice thing. Fundamentally only Steve is an active poster on OWTB these days; Ric and Matt've pretty much gone. Myself and Zorrro are fleeting members at best, so it's not us who'll miss out.

It was removed for the same reason as this one.

Yeah, Gordy would have been 64 today. Had a moments pause this morning, to think of him and thank him. Great man.

As much as it's bull shit - surely that's foreseeable if you say the same things as Andy?

In your defense, he is a cunt.

Bring It On - Gomez Bring on May!

Basically every time you open a page (same thread, new thread, other...) you take a little bit of data from the server which holds OWTB and move it to your pc/phone/device. This in isolation is fine, but we have a very active and quite large user base which we're really proud of building up (for the fan base/club size). So if there's one thread on a topic you pull that data back to you once. If you have to go to three threads for the data you're pulling it back three times, and thus tripling the cost. Again, in isolation that's a tiny amount, probably (not really measurable in this way) 0.001p or something tiny. But when that's a lot of people it all adds up. This is a pretty simplified example, but hopefully it helps. Appreciate the ideas, but unfortunately they don't offer much in the way of savings because, as above, it's more about the active threads and traffic than the things sitting on the site in the background. We have talked about reducing the open forums and may yet do that anyway, but it is unlikely to offer a significant saving. Haha! I probably should move all this to the main begging thread. I will try and get time later.

What a wonderful world that would be! What helps is people just following on from the conversations. There was plenty in the post-Bury chat about it already. Once people go to two places for one thing they double their bandwith consumption and that has a cost. We've thick skin and a bit of ribbing about closing a thread is well and good; but we're once again looking at a pot with about 2 months of funds in it... so if there's continued good form we'll be fine. If we tank again, then we're fucked - because nothing causes a usage spike more than a bad run of form. Here's hoping it all works out for the best. If not, we'll set up a reddit thread and call it a day!

Yep, and we've fuck all left in the kitty to pay for them!

Talk of him being caretaker at Everton once they see Koeman for what he is...

Awful news, I loved NMTB with him and Phil Jupitus.

You watch your mouth! Crowded House are the tits!!

Didn't he manage (under Giggs) at United whilst they BOTH owned Salford?

Don't bump threads.

PAYE or self employed? Big difference, and I'm astounded if you can go 4 months without pay on a salary basis.

Do you have any citation for clubs 100 years ago losing money? I find that hard to believe, given the comparative outlays (wages were comparatively small) versus incomes (attendance was comparatively large (albeit at a lower pp rate)), but would be very interested to be proved wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/RqrQE0A.gif That's the link... You could just type it in

Hey O4U... I can't get to the blog (blocked by work laptop) but that headline is terrifying. I hope you're OK mate. Stay strong.

...and here is is punching a Zlatan cross in to his own net (2:30 in)