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....not something that first comes to mind when reading one of your posts.

Graham / Graeme

DVD, Blueray, MP3, Sky, AppleTV..... it’s all called Tape in our house.

I think it a shame because on balance I've enjoyed listening to Wellens in his pre/post match interviews over the season and given the right time & support I think he might prove to be a decent manager & coach. I think he's been one of the most lucid and illuminating orators, even in his dulcet Manc idiosyncratic tones, we've had in some years. Maybe even better than Lee Johnson was. Nonetheless, if Lemsagam - as might be reasonable to expect - has been planning to do this for some time, then I hope whoever he has in mind has been watching our games - either live, on tape, or both - for equally as long, so they already know enough about us to have a clear idea about what to work on on the 1st day of pre-season. One might also assume that said individual will be a modern day coach, as opposed to a manager, with little influence over transfer dealings, as the procession of 'French lads' begins yet another intake. I therefore hope Lemsagam has learnt enough from his exploits this season. If we're starting Maouche and Omrani in centre mid and Walter Zenga as coach - or equivalent - on the opening game of next, we might be looking back on this one with fondness.

Why would anyone offer more than they think they needed to, in order to encourage an owner to part with the asset in question? Ditto for the sale of a sell on clause. How Lemsagam conducts himself - on behalf of our club - will be partly responsible for how others conduct themselves with him/our club.

.....if they do, we’ll get to see how good Lemsagam is at negotiating. It would be a positive sign if he didn’t just cave in at the first contact and flog him for peanuts because there was a lecky bill that needed paying. Couldnt agree more. This requires an owner with a plan. If Lemsagam thinks he can find us some ‘French lads’ that will improve us - the jury is out on that so far - then great, however I don’t see how many/any of them are going to turn a large profit for the club. The youths are the route to balancing the books. Sell a Tarky a season for £1m+ and the budget increases so we can afford bigger wages/better players. That means investing in the Academy. Better facilities. More scouts & coaches.

.....they've got Bury at Home last game. The Wigan game is immaterial.

He's better than playing an 18yo next to a 20yo......

If only Richie had've lined someone up like Matt Mills...... the owner would've been mad to have refused to sign him, given what you point out above.

Are you not on the OASIS WhatsApp group? https://twitter.com/OAFCTktOffice/status/989438393141559296

....He's barely better than Kolo Toure's Auntie.

Latics 3 Donny 2 [HT 1-1] Doyle 4,472

No. 5,173 last season when they finished 2nd in Tier 5, 5,084 the year before. 5,113 and 5,192 in the 2 back to back relegation seasons from Tier 3 to 5. They had 6,196 in the season Ronnie had them at the Top of Tier 3 - with Jake Cassidy scoring - for ages before falling away. http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/trar.htm

Our average Home gate [less Away fans] at BP this season - with 1 game to go - is 3,658. This means the average Away gate is c750. Lets says we lose 500 of that. That's 500 x £20 x 23 = £230,000. So, Solidarity Payments + Gate Receipts = on the way to Half a Million. That Matt Mills contract, what would that've been again?

So, we've ascertained that the loss in Income from solidarity payments alone, is a 6 figure sum that could be over £200k. I wonder what the value of the Matt Mills contract that was refused by the owner would've been worth over it's term.

Where the fk in McEleney at the minute? Have I missed him getting injured, or has he been caught in McDonalds with Gerrard again?

That 33% was worth £120,000 per annum to us; "The Premier League also increased the Football League solidarity payments across seasons 2016/17 to 2018/19. Solidarity payments are a share of the revenue that Premier League clubs pay towards the development of football in the lower leagues. Championship clubs previously received a flat fee of £2.3m each per season, with League One clubs getting £360,000 a season, and League Two clubs receiving £240,000. Under the new arrangements, Football League clubs will receive solidarity payments which amount to a percentage of the value of a Year 3 parachute payment. Championship clubs will each receive 30%, League One clubs 4.5% and League Two clubs 3% of the value of a Year 3 parachute payment" If we assume the 3rd year Parachute payment to be c£10m [roughly what the 3 clubs below received, then 3% is worth £300k and 4.5% £450k, so we'd now be losing out on c£150k per annum; "The three clubs relegated from the top flight for the 2014/15 season – Hull, QPR and Burnley – received £64m split over four years: £24m in the first year, then £19.3m, then £9.6m for each of the next two years." https://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/premier-league-parachute-payment/

19.02.15 EFL announcement on FA solidarity payments; So we're gonna lose 33% of what we have been receiving from the FA if we go down. Under the agreement, parachute payments to relegated Premier League clubs will be reduced from the current four season to three seasons, with Championship clubs (that are not in receipt of parachute payments) being awarded a solidarity payment equivalent to 30% of a third-year parachute payment. League 1 and League 2 clubs will receive 4.5% and 3% of a third-year payment, respectively. https://www.efl.com/news/2015/february/football-league-clubs-get-double-financial-boost/

.....that would be grand. Shall we wait till after the season is done so we can conduct an autopsy....?

1. That's what the trust is for. 2. Not properly you can't. 3. You wanted to know what I considered consistent with the semblance of a plan, not how I would conduct a Frost/Nixon interview. 4. Not if he's lying.... but to say getting an answer that he would..... Agree to personally underwrite losses for up to X years [no financial loans], at the same time increase the budget from the recent era of Corney-austerity, while also investing in infrastructure improvement; for staff [such as pitch & training facilities]; for supporters [such as bars/stands/events]; in youth [scouts/coaches/facilities]; reducing the reliance on a procession of loans, rewarding prospects with good contracts and putting an end to selling cheap; all designed to target an annual profit in player sales. At the same time he would support/fund an extended remit for OACT / and budget to advertise Oldham Athletic and the improvement in infrastructure to the inhabitants of Oldham & Tameside; all designed to target an increase support base / annual revenue. ....would not be consistent with him having a plan, is quite frankly preposterous balderdash.

Chris Moore @ Latics Oyston @ Blackpool Carson Yeung @ Birmingham Stephen Vaughan @ Chester Venky's @ B@stard Becchetti @ Leyton Orient. Sisu @ Coventry Ridsdale @ Leeds Gaydamk, Faraj, Balram Chairai and Vladimir Antonov @ Pompey

With pleasure; I posted the same link only half a dozen posts earlier;

Yeah? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43055733

Well this is a turn up for the books, I had no idea we had someone amongst us who knew so much about Mr. Abdallah Lemsagam, his personal wealth and his historic business dealings. Do tell us? I'll agree with you on actions speaking louder than words..... and if we see action, I'll be less inclined to seek words. However, to date I've seen little that could constitute a medium/long term plan, such as the contents/questions in this post....