Steve_R

Thers should be an option 'It doesn't matter who gets it. They won't get given the time by either the fans or the board and will be gone in twelve months anyway unless they can lead us to promotion playing all out attacking, sexy football.'

Am I the only one who couldn't care less if he signs or not? Like everyone else I've only seem glimpses of him, and what I have seen doesn't give me the impression that he's a certain star of the future. In my opinion he's nowhere near first team material, and the only reason he's knocking on the door is because we are crap. He's only young and he may well make it in time. Then again he might not. He signs, he doesn't sign, I'm just not that bothered.

I may be wrong but wasn't it you (Sheff Latic) who wrote a letter to Penney at the start of the season pledging undying support?

There's four of us on the 7.27 (I think) and the 18.23 return

I'm moving offices at work and I've got quite a few Old Latics programmes that someone brought in for me a good while ago that I'm looking to offload. There are a good few of the old Boundary Bulletins from 1966-68 in one of them binders you used to get. There are also a few from the 90's including some Premier League ones. I don't want anything for them(although I might let you buy me a pint if you go in the White Hart pre or post match) as long as you can pick them up yourself, so if anyone's interested just PM me or reply on here and I'll sort them out and arrange to hand them over.

League Position after 25 games under Talbot - 15th Points under Talbot after 25 games - 32 Goals scored under Talbot after 25 games - 39 Now don't get me wrong, I'm on your side re Penney and was no fan of Talbot (although I never demanded his head on a plate early doors, unlike some I could mention), but at the moment things weren't as bad under him. I know it got a lot worse but we didn't actually sink into the bottom four before he was given the bullet.

or (3) Continue to support the manager because you believe all managers should be given more time than half a season. Be prepared to let them rectify their mistakes, although from what you've seen so far you don't have that much confidence that this will happen.

Right then Phil How does this money that TTA reckon they are pumping into the club show up in the accounts? I'm not saying I doubt you and I haven't seen them myself, but Corney has always insisted that it's their brass and they don't want it back, so what have you seen that says different.

I'm on Penney's side but to blame this years inept performances on last years manager is, quite frankly, bollocks.

I have to say I agree with this. After the disruptive influence Gregan appeared to be last season he was the last player I wanted Penney to re-sign. I was glad when he was shown the door and gutted when given another chance, but it appears to have done the trick as he's been outstanding this season and I shudder to think where we'd be now if DP had come to me for advice on this one. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong (and I've had plenty of practice) but I certainly was on this one.

So, IF we win our two games in hand we'll ONLY be 11 points off the play offs? Bring it on.

What about a hated club in League One? And all this 'Marlon King deserves a second chance and we should sign him' bollocks you're spouting, I think you'll find he's had about ten chances already.

Thats EXACTLY the reason why it shouldn't be in there.

I can agree with some of that, but I think that the reason many of those who strongly object to Failsworth aren't doing much about other than moan and groan on here is because we are being told that there is no option but to move. There's no alternative site, BP can't be redeveloped etc, it's got to be, and is going to be, Failsworth. Like it or lump it. You can call it a lack of backbone if you like, but many see (rightly or wrongly) that it's a fight they can't win. There may be alternatives, but we are told not so that's what we have to believe. For example, i asked the question as to whether there was a fall back plan if the move fell through for whatever reason and the answer in no uncertain terms was 'No'. To be honest that was exactly the answer I expected, because if they'd have said "Well if Failsworth doesn't get through planning we'll have to look at a scaled down version of the BP redevelopment" then people would say "Well, why the hell aren't we doing that now?" In my opinion, If Failsworth doesn't come off for whatetever reason ( and seeing as every other plan we've had has fallen by the wayside I wouldn't be surprised) then TTA would at least be duty bound to build a replacement for the Lookers stand as they knocked it down without good reason in the first place, but at the moment they're telling us that won't happen, so it's not an option for people to think about.

I think this statement by the Corp sums up my feelings about this whole move in a nutshell. I can just about get my head round why we need to move, and I can understand that that there is no other site applicable for what we need, but I just can’t get excited about it or envisage a rosy future there. For me, Failsworth is geographically the worst site we could move to, as the arguments about whether it is in Oldham or Manchester will always rage. These ‘increased revenue streams’ have still not been identified, and as such I am very sceptical that an organization that is as shoddily run as OAFC is can suddenly turn its hand to ventures they’ve never been involved in before and turn over a £5000,000 or so yearly profit. The capacity is another thorny issue as I’m with the Corp here, you don’t build a 12k (at best) seater stadium if you see yourself any higher in the food chain than we already are, and when the Chief Exec says we will never need more than a 15/16k stadium even if we reached the Premier League again because that’s all we got last time, then it shows that there really are problems at the helm of our club. TTA have been great for us, but when they came their remit (that they set out) was to make us a self financing, Championship outfit. Now the Championship bit seems to have been conveniently dropped and I can’t remember it being mentioned once by the top table at the meeting the other night. Self sufficiency at Failsworth seems to be the name of the game now. If we achieve it fine, but just like the team at the moment, I just can’t get excited about it.

Talbot had a better record than Moore. I know someone who wont like that.

Maybe it's a religious thing?

Jesus Christ! I've heard some one eyed bollocks in my time but to practically say 'take away their three goals and they didn't have a shot on tareget' takes the buscuit. They were better than us and there's not really any disgrace in that, but we're always likely to let in goals and unless we learn how to start scoring there will be a lot more frustrating Saturday afternoons to come.

The best I've ever heard TTA describe our budget as was top ten. As we finished 6th, 8th and we're 8th when he was sacked I don't think it can be said that he was/is a poor manager. He did OK, could have done better but could have done a whole lot worse. Corney seems to say what suits him at the time. It was him who started the 'botton four budget' talk last season in an interview in 442. Then when everyone else starts mentioning it it became a top ten one. The club was apparently the farthest away from administration in our division not long ago, then we're dead in five years if we don't move to Failsworth, then at the forum, we'll still survive at BP but with hefty cut backs. Now apparently our budget is bigger than last years after being told there had been a reduction. Anyway. people will always disagree on former manager and players (or even current ones). I suppose something had to be done to halt the slide we were in, and Penney's in charge now and if everybody backs him I'm sure we'll find him to be a good 'un. Whether he can take us up time will tell, but he'll have to do it quickly or the natives will soon be on his back.

Just to put all this capacity talk into perspective, Brighton, who can't fill their 8,000 capacity ground are moving to a new stadium that will hold 20,000, and tomorrow's opponents Southend, who average around 7,500, having been given planning permission to build a new stadium with a 22,000 capacity. I'm sure their more sensible fans will be up in arms at them wasting all that money on a load of empty seats. Or will they see it as a sign that their club obviously wants to go places?

So you didn't like Moore from day one but that's OK, but anyone who's not taken to Penney is blasted by you. How does that work? I'm completly behind Penney and feel IF given the time he could do a great job for us, but I've been all for giving every manager time (ie years, not months). Yet you're having a pop at everyone who it would appear feels the same way about our current incumbent as you did about Ronnie without giving either of them a chance.

Yes, but when we move to Failsworth we are going to 'market' the club to the people there. And it will happen, because 'Alan' said so at the forum.

Yet Simon Corney at the recent forum stated that our playing budget for last year was between 1.5m/1.6m. Maybe they don't talk to each other, but they can't both be right.

The most incredible bit I heard was when Phil Thompson was describing the first pitch invasion as he was covering it on Sky Sports, and he said that one West Ham fan ran up to Carlton Cole, put his arm round him and tried to have his picture taken with him!

But you did. Think before yous speak, or post, ***********.