Lookers_Carl Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Never have live, nor probally ever will. But, the ground will still be in Oldham so that's why I don't understand all the talk about being a Manchester club. Lancaster club has an M35 postcode, and look on the map to see where that postcode falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Lancaster club has an M35 postcode, and look on the map to see where that postcode falls Probably not the comment you're looking for here Carl, but when you look at the map in political/geographical circumstances - the more one thinks it's not the best geographical move for the club.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downender2 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 does it really matter that much..? what is important is the viability and sustainability of the club.IMO I really couldn't give a monkey's chuff where they build it, so long as it provides for the future stability of the club and helps the club progress. At least something is happening...(crosses fingers and toes) and in 5 years time when the Arabs have had enough of their plaything at Eastlands and city go proper tits up...who knows what might happen..?? lets stop moaning and whinging about this issue and get behind the team, here's hoping for a superb start to the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Probably not the comment you're looking for here Carl, but when you look at the map in political/geographical circumstances - the more one thinks it's not the best geographical move for the club.... But looking at that map, is it really so different from Bolton playing in Horwich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Does seem fruitless to keep banging on about the location of the stadium. If anything is not going to change its the location... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Lancaster club has an M35 postcode, and look on the map to see where that postcode falls Why is a Post code relevent. There are other argumetns, but the Post Code one is th emost ridiculous. Created purely on the location of the Post Office Sorting Office locations, nothing to do with the geography of the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Why is a Post code relevent. There are other argumetns, but the Post Code one is th emost ridiculous. Created purely on the location of the Post Office Sorting Office locations, nothing to do with the geography of the area. This is true....if you look at the postcodes on that map then Bury doesn't technically exist. The more I think about it, and looking at that map makes it even more obvious, its a bad idea to move to Failsworth. Our biggest problem with attracting fans is that we are too close to Manchester. So what do we do? Move even closer. Genius. If you look at Bolton, they were wise, they moved further away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInAus Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Why is a Post code relevent. There are other argumetns, but the Post Code one is th emost ridiculous. Created purely on the location of the Post Office Sorting Office locations, nothing to do with the geography of the area. I think you are missing the point. Carl is saying that the new stadium will be in the area marked M35 on the map (which is the postcode, but that isn't relevant). According to the map, M35 is part of Oldham and not Manchester. Even if Oldham moved to Manchester, watching Oldham in Manchester is still infinitely better than there being no OAFC anymore. If TTA's said it is up to the fans, we either move the stadium or let the club die - how many of you nay sayers would vote for the club to die? TTA's have done so much for this club, and if this move makes our survival more sure, then it is exactly what we need and should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) Following the barmy way of thinking being presented by some then Manchester United is not even in Manchester.... Its in Trafford... Bury play in Bolton... And Rochdale play in Oldham.... Taxi! Edited August 5, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I think you are missing the point. Carl is saying that the new stadium will be in the area marked M35 on the map (which is the postcode, but that isn't relevant). According to the map, M35 is part of Oldham and not Manchester. Even if Oldham moved to Manchester, watching Oldham in Manchester is still infinitely better than there being no OAFC anymore. If TTA's said it is up to the fans, we either move the stadium or let the club die - how many of you nay sayers would vote for the club to die? TTA's have done so much for this club, and if this move makes our survival more sure, then it is exactly what we need and should do. Re Blue in Aus, that was my point entirely. Re OAFC0000, as was pointed out before, by the same balmy way of thinking Bury and Rochdale dont even exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) I think you are missing the point. Carl is saying that the new stadium will be in the area marked M35 on the map (which is the postcode, but that isn't relevant). According to the map, M35 is part of Oldham and not Manchester. Even if Oldham moved to Manchester, watching Oldham in Manchester is still infinitely better than there being no OAFC anymore. If TTA's said it is up to the fans, we either move the stadium or let the club die - how many of you nay sayers would vote for the club to die? TTA's have done so much for this club, and if this move makes our survival more sure, then it is exactly what we need and should do. Hi Blue I tihnk we are at cross purposes, I do support the momve, and those that are saying the post code is not a very good reason becasue of the reasons Post codes were invented. The proximity to MAnchester is valid, and actaully I was doing a Google map, and it is a risk going so far away. But the risk of doing nothing is great, I feel. EDIT that did not work OAFC, new OAFC, MCFC Edited August 5, 2009 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I have ALWAYS viewed the club as being closer to Royton than Oldham. Having grown up in Hollins its always seemed far away and its well out of town really Its never been a factor in if I support the club or not. Its Oldhams football team. Its location dose not change that for me. I dont think if you live in the out skirts for example that if its at BP or if its a the bottom of broadway its going to make a lot of difference. As long as its easy enough to get to, which it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookers_Carl Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I have ALWAYS viewed the club as being closer to Royton than Oldham. Having grown up in Hollins its always seemed far away and its well out of town really Its never been a factor in if I support the club or not. Its Oldhams football team. Its location dose not change that for me. I dont think if you live in the out skirts for example that if its at BP or if its a the bottom of broadway its going to make a lot of difference. As long as its easy enough to get to, which it will be. A 5 min drive from the motorway absolute max High frequency metrolink going straight past the ground Several high frequency bus services going down manchester/oldham road Cant really get any easier imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Lancaster club has an M35 postcode, and look on the map to see where that postcode falls Thanks for the map Carl, just what I need to ask this: Will all those bleating on and on and on about Failsworth not being in Oldham because it has a Manchester postcode please, PLEASE look at this map and tell us all whether they'd be happy with a new ground in OL14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 there is no oldham part of failsworth or failsworth part of oldham 'failsworth is manchester' You can't see a problem with Oldham no longer playing in Oldham ........ ? Glad to see there is a few of us that are not on our own, seems like everyone is just shining sunshine out of there ass since this move was announced, i'm with you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Glad to see there is a few of us that are not on our own, seems like everyone is just shining sunshine out of there ass since this move was announced, i'm with you 2 Maybe because most can see past the ends of their noses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Probably not the comment you're looking for here Carl, but when you look at the map in political/geographical circumstances - the more one thinks it's not the best geographical move for the club.... This is a fair comment but how many football fans do you know that look at things in a poitical/geographical was when refering to there footy team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Maybe because most can see past the ends of their noses? woud you like to expain this one further to me Mr.Coconut, don't think i quite follow you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Following the barmy way of thinking being presented by some then Manchester United is not even in Manchester.... Its in Trafford... Bury play in Bolton... And Rochdale play in Oldham.... Taxi! Manchester United don't play in Manchester, but in a seperate borough. It does, however, have a Manchester postcode. The other three do play within the boundaries of the towns they represent, despite having the postcodes of neighbouring towns (it's the office where their mail is sorted.) If we move to Failsworth we will, as people keep saying, still play within the boundaries of the borough of Oldham. The only real issue (apart from the small capacity and possible tinpot design) is the wisdom of moving the club's home to an area that isn't a traditional heartland of Latics' support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I have ALWAYS viewed the club as being closer to Royton than Oldham. Having grown up in Hollins its always seemed far away and its well out of town really Its never been a factor in if I support the club or not. Its Oldhams football team. Its location dose not change that for me. I dont think if you live in the out skirts for example that if its at BP or if its a the bottom of broadway its going to make a lot of difference. As long as its easy enough to get to, which it will be. With BP being no more than a ten minute walk (for me anyway) from the centre of Oldham, that's a pretty Oldham location, as far as I've ever been able to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) Manchester United don't play in Manchester, but in a seperate borough. It does, however, have a Manchester postcode. The other three do play within the boundaries of the towns they represent, despite having the postcodes of neighbouring towns (it's the office where their mail is sorted.) If we move to Failsworth we will, as people keep saying, still play within the boundaries of the borough of Oldham. The only real issue (apart from the small capacity and possible tinpot design) is the wisdom of moving the club's home to an area that isn't a traditional heartland of Latics' support. I do not think you can consider the area around BP to be a "traditional heartland" of support for us either though. Must people seem to travel to the area from other areas in Oldham and beyond. We do have a lot of fans in the Chadderton, Hollins and Limeside areas. Edited August 5, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) and in 5 years time when the Arabs have had enough of their plaything at Eastlands and city go proper tits up...who knows what might happen..?? What-so having got fed up with a PL team with world class players on its books that they've paid for, they'll start looking at a nearby third division club with a 12000 capacity stadium? In any case, the Arabs seem to be putting down real roots at Eastlands. We'll see more of this kind of thing over the coming years, as the oil supplies begin to dwindle and the producers start to diversify their investments, and not just in football. Edited August 5, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I do not think you can consider the area around BP to be a "traditional heartland" of support for us either though. Must people seem to travel to the area from other areas in Oldham and beyond. We do have a lot of fans in the Chadderton, Hollins and Limeside areas. Isn't nearby Royton a Latics heartland, even if you take into account the plastic Reds and Sky Blues? Most areas of the borough could be considered heartlands, particularly those you mention. Failsworth can't, not least because of its largely Mancunian makeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 We have all questioned TTA s (now 4 ) intentions for the club but I believe that without their intervention there would be no Oldham Athletic This may be true, but does it mean that they should never be questioned? I believe they have the club's interests at heart, but they've made many mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Isn't nearby Royton a Latics heartland, even if you take into account the plastic Reds and Sky Blues? Most areas of the borough could be considered heartlands, particularly those you mention. Failsworth can't, not least because of its largely Mancunian makeup. I would agree that Failsworth is not a traditional heartland. I do however think that new fans can be found there. Having a football club on your door step is going to have an impact on that I would think. I also think people from the Chadderton, Hollins and Limeside areas are now more likely to attend. It really could work out either way but I really do not think the move is going to see a dramatic decline in support and I am very hopeful moving may actually increase support. We simple dont know though and its impossible to second guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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