palmer1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 IMO Tuesaday at Hartlepool is a must win game or PD has to get the chop a draw is not good enough, they got done by 5 today against what I thought was a poor Coventry side a loss is unthinkable can anyone see things turning around for us with the current managment team, im not one to call for his head but I cant see things changing part of me thinks a win at Hartlepool will just be delaying the inevitable anyway get someone new in so he has plenty of time before January to weigh up he is options reagarding replacing the likes of Baxter,Derbyshire and maybe Furman who needs to be sold in January if we dont want another player leaving for free at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 IMO Tuesaday at Hartlepool is a must win game or PD has to get the chop a draw is not good enough, they got done by 5 today against what I thought was a poor Coventry side a loss is unthinkable can anyone see things turning around for us with the current managment team, im not one to call for his head but I cant see things changing part of me thinks a win at Hartlepool will just be delaying the inevitable anyway get someone new in so he has plenty of time before January to weigh up he is options reagarding replacing the likes of Baxter,Derbyshire and maybe Furman who needs to be sold in January if we dont want another player leaving for free at the end of the season. I dont think he will be around for Hartlepool, although I would like to here what the owtb lads post when they return back from Bournemouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc joe Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 It's a must win for Dickov yeh ( if he's still there by Tuesday ) wouldn't call it a must win for us as whole as its still fairly early on in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I dont think he will be around for Hartlepool, although I would like to here what the owtb lads post when they return back from Bournemouth. I suspect they'll say something along the lines of we were well in the game first half without actually threatening the goal but fell apart in the second as soon as their first goal went in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 part of me thinks a win at Hartlepool will just be delaying the inevitable anyway I've felt all along that the Crewe and Preston wins did just that. And perhaps Matt Smith's goal at Bramall Lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 It's a must win for Dickov yeh ( if he's still there by Tuesday ) wouldn't call it a must win for us as whole as its still fairly early on in the season it was meant a "must win" game for Dickov, not for the club as a whole however if you dont pick up points against a side on 8 points(?) and who are already being left behind at the bottom of the league then we have massive problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 if dickov doesnt start Matt Smith on tuesday then that alone should see him sacked, the only player to come out with any credit from the last few games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think it's time for him to go now. Same old crap. Whenever we win a game we then take 2 steps back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine185 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If you knew PD would definitely be sacked if we lost at Hartlepool, would you want us to lose the game so it happened? It breaks my heart to say it but I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killens_physio Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If you knew PD would definitely be sacked if we lost at Hartlepool, would you want us to lose the game so it happened? It breaks my heart to say it but I would. I never want us to lose again regardless of who is our manager. Even when we had Disaster Dave I still wanted us to win, and likewise if Dickov is still here come Tuesday I want us to go out and win the game and for him to prove us that he has got what it takes to be a good manager. I doubt he will though and for that reason he should do the admirable thing and say 'Ive tried my best and its time for someone else to have a go'. Im sure he will become a good manager but I think for all parties a fresh start would be the best way. He leaves with his reputation still relatively in tact and we have time to find someone who can get the best out of this squad of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If you knew PD would definitely be sacked if we lost at Hartlepool, would you want us to lose the game so it happened? It breaks my heart to say it but I would. what the hell? Why would you want the team you support to lose in any situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) Lose and I think he'll have to go. A draw might just give him until Shrewsbury. A win would have to be followed up by a point and good performance at the very least next Saturday so we can get some momentum built up before the Doncaster double header. Either way, as o4u and many others have said, it feels like it's delaying the inevitable. I'll always want PD to succeed with us but I doubt he will. Edited November 17, 2012 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If you knew PD would definitely be sacked if we lost at Hartlepool, would you want us to lose the game so it happened? It breaks my heart to say it but I would. I never want to see us lose a game, but I would like to see Dickov do the honourable thing for the club and resign. Didn't expect a win from today's game and thought at half-time that we were doing ok and maybe could sneek a draw. How wrong could I have been?...whatever he said in the dressing room is anyone's guess. Time to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Four goals conceded in half a game .....and they missed a penalty ,this is pathetic , we weren't playing Barcelona. We haven't battered a team like that since the Chesterfield 5-2 game ,unless I have missed one , and that was ages ago. Bad timing for the manager , Coventry banging in 5 in at Hartlepool. Hartlepool are 15 without a win ......longest record in England . This is boiling point pressure for him I think & would you want to rely on our players at the moment to possibly save your job ? Time to 'man up' lads me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine185 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If it means losing one game rather than continuing with this crap until we are relegated then yes, I'd take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If Corney is thinking of axing dickov. .. then he might as well do it now. The Hartlepool game won't tell us anything different, win lose or draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If Corney is thinking of axing dickov. .. then he might as well do it now. The Hartlepool game won't tell us anything different, win lose or draw. Spot on, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsSideOfLife Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This makes me laugh. A must win game in Novemeber!! He should be gone. We should beat Hartlepool but apart from last season when have we beaten them? They are just one of those teams we never seem to beat away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This makes me laugh. A must win game in Novemeber!! He should be gone. We should beat Hartlepool but apart from last season when have we beaten them? They are just one of those teams we never seem to beat away! I bet when Rochdale went down last season, Wycombe, Bolton and the rest of the relegated teams were demoted they regretted losing a game in October/November/December that they should have won. The league can come down to 1 or 2 losses and draws that didn't seem significant when they happened but made the difference come the end of the season. Its a must win because a change in manager is a huge decision and getting cast adrift is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We have gone beyond the point of 'must wins'. Dickov needs a change and so do we. The question is what instructions does SC have? Does it matter to him if we go down? The evidence so far is that he does understand the position we are in but his brief is to do nothing about it. The value of the land is the value of the land. I suspect he wants us to do well but in reality it makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Simon Corneys instructions? Brief? from who? if you think it does not matter to him if we go down then you are wrong! even if he had no feelings towards the club as a fan - which I feel after all this time he must have, how can you not after nearly 10 years of his blood sweat and tears put into the club then finanacialy surley it would be suicide to see us go down another level and have the crowds and income reduce even further. new stand coming or not a relegation would make finding investment in the club which is difficult enough now near impossible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsSideOfLife Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Maybe a new manager will bring a fresh air of optimisim around the place which is badly needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Nothing will happen until we lose the Donny Cup game…... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsSideOfLife Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Nothing will happen until we lose the Donny Cup game…... Which will cost us so much! Donny is a very important game. Season changing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Corney only deals in ££££££ league defeats upset him but a Cup defeat and losing out another possible Liverpool will see him act…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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