welshgaz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I will drive him back he makes monty look like a grafter! It's a shame because he is capable of delivering quality into the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Good luck to Reid, it'll be interesting to see where he plays on Friday (if he even starts) because it sounded like it would be difficult to replace anyone after the Hartlepool game. If he isn't brought in to be in the first choice XI then it's still a decent move as we'll need as many bodies as we can get for our busy run in. As for Mellor and Winchester, I'd be tempted to give them both another 6 months, possibly a full season. Both will be only 20 for the majority of next season and they are likely to come cheap. Both have shown during their time here that they are talented on the ball, Mellor with free-kicks and long range shots last season adding to a very good performance at left back against MK and Winchester with his long range strike against MK the season before and with his tidiness in possession against Liverpool. The big question marks over the two are whether Winchester has the strength and build for our level and with Mellor it is whether he can keep his fitness levels high enough. Judging by how far off the pace he was at Coventry this is unlikely, but I think both players have enough to work with as long as they have the right guidance and opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 LJ clearly has a way in which he sets his teams to play - with tempo and pressing forward. He may well feel that Mellor and Winchester can still play a big part for us but only when they get up to the required levels of fitness which he may currently be beyond them as we try and get to our points target. Of course, he may feel that they're not the kind of players to play this kind of game in which case he'll move them on to ensure that the youth players coming through don't find their way to the first team squad blocked. Let's not forget that he'll have a plan to finish the season off and another longer term one for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 It's the manager's 2nd signing (yes 2nd signing) and already people know better. Can we please have a little faith as his first one looked pretty good (hard to judge after one game). Give me a young hungry lad anytime rather than an ageing pro (we have had our fair share of those haven't we?). As for Winchester and Mellor, they are not good enough IMO. Welcome to BP Bobby, I hope you do very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Could this be a clue that Wes was one of those LJ was getting at when he talked about players lacking fitness? Seems like he ll provide good options across midfield either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Could this be a clue that Wes was one of those LJ was getting at when he talked about players lacking fitness? Seems like he ll provide good options across midfield either way He isn't looking to replace Wes, he has just made him captain. I think he mean't Croft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Good luck to Reid, it'll be interesting to see where he plays on Friday (if he even starts) because it sounded like it would be difficult to replace anyone after the Hartlepool game. If he isn't brought in to be in the first choice XI then it's still a decent move as we'll need as many bodies as we can get for our busy run in. As for Mellor and Winchester, I'd be tempted to give them both another 6 months, possibly a full season. Both will be only 20 for the majority of next season and they are likely to come cheap. Both have shown during their time here that they are talented on the ball, Mellor with free-kicks and long range shots last season adding to a very good performance at left back against MK and Winchester with his long range strike against MK the season before and with his tidiness in possession against Liverpool. The big question marks over the two are whether Winchester has the strength and build for our level and with Mellor it is whether he can keep his fitness levels high enough. Judging by how far off the pace he was at Coventry this is unlikely, but I think both players have enough to work with as long as they have the right guidance and opportunities. LJ has said Reid and himself are alike in that they didn't have the power to compete at this level in their youth, this indicates Winchester is in the same bracket and therefore should be retained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 He isn't looking to replace Wes, he has just made him captain. I think he mean't Croft. And I would think Smith at least? Usually blowing out of his arse after 60 minutes even on a quieter day, LJ has said Reid and himself are alike in that they didn't have the power to compete at this level in their youth, this indicates Winchester is in the same bracket and therefore should be retained. Agree. I read it almost as saying to our young lads that they need to show that they can compete in the next year or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I agree, Mellor isn't good enough yet but Winchester looks like he's becoming a good centre-midfielder. Winchester has been good this season, especially against Liverpool and looks to have a future ahead of him. Mellor on the other hand probably suffered from his awful stint at left-back last season. No confidence gained from an unsuccessful spell and hardly any gametime this season looks to have stinted his growth as a player. Shame as he looked to be a good player a few years ago. Winchester looks like he's been improving and Mellor looks to have gone back a step, that is the difference between the 2. Awful stint at left back ? Really ? Twice a stint than Paul blacks or diallo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Brad Diallo what a player he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Brad Diallo what a player he was. I thought he was going to be when he landed that cross on Kuqi's head. Alas, it wasn't to be. He was :censored:. And slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It was his positioning that makes me chuckle looking back. Were so lucky to have grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm not at all convinced by Mellor or Winchester but both should have spent extended spells on loan in League Two long ago. This would have been far better for their development than kicking about on the bench at BP and playing reserve team football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Thankfully, we look to have a new manager who undertands that; whereas PD seemed not too? Dan Taylor, Mellor, Winchester, Millar, Hughes, Sutherland....Belezika if not fo his injury; all of them should have IMO been planned to have loaned them out earllier in the season at various stages; especially in the stage where we didnt have many reserve games. LJ said that next season he'd have to consider the development of the young players, and whether that meant staying at the club or going out for a loan or 2. IMO, Winchester in particular would have benifitted from a loan to L2 or BSP this season instead of stagnating in the reserves and fringes. Oh - and Millar and Mellor's loan to Chorley was a waste IMO; loan them by all means; but to an appropriate level. It seems LJ will be looking to do that next season. And - welcome to BP Reid. Young, hungry and fit. He fits the brief for the high tempo; high pressure game plan; and as he plays across the middle positions; provides much needed competiton and sqaud depth. Hope he turns out to be another decent signing, just as Korey Smith looks lije being.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnchanJules Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Young, quick, can play anywhere across midifeld and likes to pick a pass, Reid sounds like M'changama to me. Maybe we will see Youssuf back next season after all !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Young, quick, can play anywhere across midifeld and likes to pick a pass, Reid sounds like M'changama to me. Maybe we will see Youssuf back next season after all !! I wouldn't hold your breath on that one unfortunately...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossrocks Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Agree re the loaning out of our younger players. Dale Stephens is a great example of it working well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Agree re the loaning out of our younger players. Dale Stephens is a great example of it working well for us. Deane Smalley - if it weren't for his contract expiring I'd have thought we would have passed him on for a fee after a very good season under Shez in L2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 He was :censored:. And slow. Don't be so picky. He was pretty good other than that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm not at all convinced by Mellor or Winchester but both should have spent extended spells on loan in League Two long ago. This would have been far better for their development than kicking about on the bench at BP and playing reserve team football. Really not sure that many L2 clubs would be beating down the doors of a struggling L1 outfit looking to borrow kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Really not sure that many L2 clubs would be beating down the doors of a struggling L1 outfit looking to borrow kids. Players for free (or less than their value at any rate) will be popular with lots of clubs. They'd be a lot better off being 1st choice replacements at a League 2 or conference side than being outside of the match day squad here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Players for free (or less than their value at any rate) will be popular with lots of clubs. They'd be a lot better off being 1st choice replacements at a League 2 or conference side than being outside of the match day squad here. Don't disagree at all in principle but I just can't see underdeveloped 17 year olds being at the top of a list for clubs close to our level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Agree re the loaning out of our younger players. Dale Stephens is a great example of it working well for us. Yep, those 6 games he played for Rochdale made him the player he is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It was his positioning that makes me chuckle looking back. Were so lucky to have grounds. Diallo was told to play so tight, as was Mellor, Black and Lee. It was all just part of Taggarts moronic defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Had a look at Reid in the first half of this afternoons reserve game and although he showed a few tricks on the ball I wondered if physically he will be suited to the hurly burly of Division One football. He's quite neat and tidy on the ball with good close control, but some of his distribution was wayward, maybe that was down to a lively ball and a bitterly cold wind as many others seemed to be affected. Very impressed with centre back Glenn Belezika who was a man mountain alongside the steady Cliff Byrne. Montano was ok in fits and starts, the rest just average. Half time score; 0-0, had enough went home. Edited March 26, 2013 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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