HarryBosch Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 How much have you seen of Messrs Rodgers and Oxley? Serious question as I just wondered why you might be doubting them. They don't have to be well known to be talented. I know from my family in Hull that Oxley is very highly rated, but didn't get a chance last season because of Stockdale and Jakupovic. It's just the fact that they've both played so few games in several years as professional footballers - Rodgers 2 on loan at Exeter, Oxley 7 in 4 years across four clubs. No-one else has fancied them, including lesser lights than us in Oxley's case. I hope they prove to be LJ master strokes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Jose Baxter had 14 starts in League One when he arrived at Oldham Athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Jose Baxter had 14 starts in League One when he arrived at Oldham Athletic And 7 for Everton - what's your point caller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 No he had 1 start for Everton the rest were sub appearances. Sometimes whether they've played games or not is irrelevant as Baxter has proved as did others like Kilkenny, Evina, White etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 It's just the fact that they've both played so few games in several years as professional footballers - Rodgers 2 on loan at Exeter, Oxley 7 in 4 years across four clubs. No-one else has fancied them, including lesser lights than us in Oxley's case. I hope they prove to be LJ master strokes though Oxley broke his finger halfway through his initial month's loan spell at Oxford. That put him out for long enough that he returned to Hull. Bet no one had heard of Jack Butland when he went to Cheltenham either. He's done alright for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 No he had 1 start for Everton the rest were sub appearances. Sometimes whether they've played games or not is irrelevant as Baxter has proved as did others like Kilkenny, Evina, White etc.... Absolutely. Let's hope these two are of a similar ilk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 LJ seems to have cracked that having our own players means they usually care more about the club than loans (usually) and tying them into contracts can only help with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I reckon Oxley will be, having seen Rodgers albeit briefly I can't see him being first choice but they'd the beauty of LJ he reckons they all can stake a claim so his starting line up at Stevenage will be interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 And 7 for Everton - what's your point caller? Whats your point caller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 More to the point, caller, why does Bristol Latic type in a different font to everyone else? And why does Rudemedic need to number all his points in a response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 *Puts Brian Clough voice on* Listen son. See that greeet big rectangular green thing out there... *points at the Boundary Park football pitch* Football's played on that. Not on a ruddy internet forum." See you in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 im confident he'll get everything sorted. never been this excited for a new season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 LJ seems to have cracked that having our own players means they usually care more about the club than loans (usually) and tying them into contracts can only help with that We haven't played any games yet, how do you come to that assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 We haven't played any games yet, how do you come to that assumption? Presume he means from when Johnson took over, there was perhaps a difference in attitude between contracted and loanee players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I am presuming that players in 2 year contacts are going to care more about the club than player on 1, 2 & 3 month loans is my point Like I say that's usually the case not always but if there players here want to be playing in front of bigger crowds & with better players and even in a higher division for us (not deluded we won't go up) then having them here next year and building a stable squad without having wholesale changes every summer and building continuity by LJ can only help. I personally think its a clever move by the gaffer and those on the board banking him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 *Puts Brian Clough voice on* Listen son. See that greeet big rectangular green thing out there... *points at the Boundary Park football pitch* Football's played on that. Not on a ruddy internet forum." See you in August. Exactly. (And nice ref to Cloughie too young man!!) On paper; it actually looks a better attacking side than we had last season. On paper. Shame we play of grass. Reserving judgement until we've started the season and played a good number of games. I'm excited for this season and looking forward to it. BUT - we really have nothing much at all to judge this group on at this stage; so its all conjecture really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Regarding the loanee / contracted player discussion I seem to remember LJ making a mention that as a loanee himself he had a different attitude to the club he was playing for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Let's see them play first. What?! You're one crazy mother:censored:er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 On paper; it actually looks a better attacking side than we had last season. But weak as piss defensively... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Paper pitch. That would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 But weak as piss defensively... ...and that's why I said attacking wise, instead of a blanket 'better than last year', as IMO we are better attacking wise; but weaker defensively. So as I said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I dont mind shipping 5 as long as we score 6. Can see a lot of high scoring games involving us this season. Back to the good old days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Sod it, lets win games 5-4 rather than 1-0 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Although Baxter and Derbyshire were more desperation signings when it became abundantly clear that the initial squad wasn't good enough. Desperation? Not really...Dickov openly stated the squad needed 4 or 5 more players to which Corney went in the press and laughingly suggested he might get 2. As has been said above, this lot brought in is just rolling replacements. While I'm quitely confident with them, I was over the moon when we got Croft, Derbyshire & Baxter but added we still needed another handful of players. If we get another 3 or 4 in (one or two being older experienced heads) then we could do alright next season. As it is, the jury is still out. The next 2 weeks will shape things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Exactly. (And nice ref to Cloughie too young man!!) On paper; it actually looks a better attacking side than we had last season. On paper. Shame we play of grass. Reserving judgement until we've started the season and played a good number of games. I'm excited for this season and looking forward to it. BUT - we really have nothing much at all to judge this group on at this stage; so its all conjecture really. I was convinced we played on paper! That's all people banged on about as they foamed at the mouth for PD to go. I do hope we play on grass this season! And well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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