jimsleftfoot Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 See, if we ban all kinds of singing and or chanting,unless of course it is strictly football material, anyone who could possibly be offended or indeed offended by proxy, will have a great day out. Or to spin it around, positive rather than negative support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) What's this?Group of Notts fans in their "singing section" bursting out the classics 'town full of pakis' and songs about the Stand Fire. Classy. Quite rightly, their own supporters have complained and police and Notts are reviewing CCTV Footage. ....with some of the fans i've encountered; i wouldn't put it past them for equivilent songs to be sung when we play Bradford away. Edited August 21, 2013 by slystallone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Tis Port Vale chaps, not Notts County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 We have now had a wide spectrum of opinion on the crude degradation of a young woman who was representing her/a football club and its long established nickname. She was doing this in a family environment where all were welcomed. She arrived in front of our following with a warm friendly smile which changed to a brave faced, forced smile upon hearing the chants. She was obviously affected by the chant. ‘If’ she was being paid as a (Disney type character) to entertain families (which was clearly her intention, if you were there to witness it), why on earth would she expect what she got. She was young enough for her parents to be there and old enough, perhaps, for her young children to be there. Does anyone refute that a football arena is a family environment and most fans don’t want to hear this stuff? It is also worth noting we made a lot more noise without it when we could ALL join in. Verbal abuse of referees, linesmen opposing player’s, and even our own players and coaching staff, all seem to be fair game and I would agree a line is very difficult to draw. But surely lewd chanting aimed at a female club mascot should be way outside what any sane person would call acceptable. If it was, would our own pre-match teenage dancers or even Jenny Warburton, be fair game? In today’s anything goes public displays of lewdness and excess by some young and not so young people it is worth remembering that some of these said people would take ‘offence’ at someone making a remark or looking at them in the wrong way. We all know that is a fact, and, what retribution is sometimes taken. Obviously, they think being looked at or commented to is offensive to their sensitive nature. Unbelievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I blame the Co-op for sticking their Nuts & Loaded mags on the top shelf with all the other scud publications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The "get your tits out for the lads" chant is not one I'd join it with but it's not comparable to singing songs about the Bradford fire disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Group of Notts fans in their "singing section" bursting out the classics 'town full of pakis' and songs about the Stand Fire. Classy. Quite rightly, their own supporters have complained and police and Notts are reviewing CCTV Footage. ....with some of the fans i've encountered; i wouldn't put it past them for equivilent songs to be sung when we play Bradford away. How did you get from tits to paki's to the Bradford fire? Welcome to the Only Connect OWTB Special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm sure there's a connection somewhere... although I'm still trying to think of one that isn't blatantly offensive to all concerned... Surely even our most amoeba brained creche members wouldn't miss the irony in singing "You're just a town full of Pakis" to Bradford? Would they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Am I getting my tits out or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ask brother Lags. You kind of undone all your hard work there, try again. I just love it when people try to make others look silly on here and it backfires... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Am I getting my tits out or not?I got my head between a cracking pair at Stevenage after the last goal, but i didn't get his phone number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I just love it when people try to make others look silly on here and it backfires... Although a sneaky 'have' after the you might have worked better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Tis Port Vale chaps, not Notts County. Ah, I was close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 How did you get from tits to paki's to the Bradford fire? Welcome to the Only Connect OWTB Special Oh I can't be arsed repeating myself - re-read my initial post, and the posts of others here and work it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I got my head between a cracking pair at Stevenage after the last goal, but i didn't get his phone number You're :censored:ing shameless you are. I thought what we had at Millwall was something special. (granted that was five years ago...!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I just love it when people try to make others look silly on here and it backfires... Leave um to it brother, It's a compliment they feel the need. Cheers cavalry. Till the next time a group rub up is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh I can't be arsed repeating myself - re-read my initial post, and the posts of others here and work it out i have and i can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If Dennis Potter had written a tampon advert, this thread would be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think he's saying people with no qualms in shouting one type of 'unacceptable' abuse will often have no qualms about singing / shouting other types of abuse. I'm not sure what I think of that. I do get annoyed when people get on their high horse about abuse to women at matches. And I'm a woman. Women are people, and deserve no more respect than men. People deserve respect. Anyone who thinks people sung at to get your tits out at a football match is offensive and abusive - well, you may be right (but I'd wager 99% of women have had more hurtful or offensive things shouted at them), but this isn't about Latics fans singing :censored:e at a woman at Peterborough. This is about people generally being totally self-centred, not respecting other people (especially those who are different in any way), and not thinking through / caring about the impact their behaviour has on others. I started off thinking I totally disagreed with Sly, but think I may have just typed myself into some level of agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) If Dennis Potter had written a tampon advert, this thread would be it. Have you a fixation brother? it's quite alright even our future King once said he'd like to be one! Edited August 21, 2013 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I suppose you can push a joke too far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 yeah, I thought Charlie did also..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Some are there with families, kids, sisters, brothers, but some are not they are there to get away from all that and the sweat shop/workplace environment, and be a bit silly at the footy game, what's so wrong with that? Although i have never sung anything like that at a football match, i have heard it, at quite a few games over the years, If the girl took any notice of it, I'm sure she would be more embarrassed (as were some of our fans) rather than something deeply offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegtt Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I thought this was a working mans game? A stadium full of testosterone etc... We'll be letting the girls play football next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think he's saying people with no qualms in shouting one type of 'unacceptable' abuse will often have no qualms about singing / shouting other types of abuse. I'm not sure what I think of that. I do get annoyed when people get on their high horse about abuse to women at matches. And I'm a woman. Women are people, and deserve no more respect than men. People deserve respect. Anyone who thinks people sung at to get your tits out at a football match is offensive and abusive - well, you may be right (but I'd wager 99% of women have had more hurtful or offensive things shouted at them), but this isn't about Latics fans singing :censored:e at a woman at Peterborough. This is about people generally being totally self-centred, not respecting other people (especially those who are different in any way), and not thinking through / caring about the impact their behaviour has on others. I started off thinking I totally disagreed with Sly, but think I may have just typed myself into some level of agreement. 99% of women eh? What an outrageous unsubstantiated statement. You are quoting the percentage abused enacting a roll in an area of public entertainment (term used loosely regarding football)? I applaud your concern for ALL human beings though. Again, I agree that women do not ‘deserve’ more respect than men but as someone with over 50yrs of adulthood I have seen the numbers of men happy to give it in abundance decline alarmingly. This in itself is partly responsible for the appalling lack of respect for each other these days. We all climb upon a high horse from time to time on any given subject that suits us – it is human nature. If I am guilty of that so be it. I witnessed a female football mascot, unnecessarily embarrassed by some of our football fans at a football match, in a football stadium and I posted it on a football forum. Heaven forbid it’s far from the most unimportant thing that has been posted on OWTB. It is fair to say it has had a good airing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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