singe Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Other events I instinctively recall where I was. Not Mandela's release. Then I checked, and understood why. 3 days later was the St Valentines Day Massacre. RIP Mandela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Aye RIP Mandela. Singe, I will never forget February 14th 1990... I reckon that was the best night of my life and would only be bettered by a night with Michelle Keegan (to which I reckon would be all over in about 14 seconds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 14 seconds eh? <doffs cap> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) 14 seconds is optimistic? she'd take her socks off and many would be finished for the night... RIP Mandela Edited December 5, 2013 by kieranmcandrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 And we reach a new low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Elvis 1977 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 To some. I'd consider Margaret Thatcher a terrorist, but others wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Osama Bin laden was some freedom fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? A response to state murder of protesters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Bin Laden was not fighting for recognition of a race, for a continent plundered by the Western World for Centuries. Unlike Mandela who wanted Africa and the black peoples therein to have a voice. Bin Laden was simply pissed off that the Allies in 1990-91 refused his offer of support and instead launched attacks from perceived sacred Saudi soil in order to attack Muslim nations. He was definitely not a freedom fighter more a rich moralist in his eyes protecting the rights of the middle Eastern Sheiks to police sacred Muslim soil themselves rather than surrendering to the will of the Western infidel. Probably the PC term is a religious fundamentalist or increasingly what we know as a radical muslim. Either way I suspect he's not enjoying his 70 virgins in paradise as a martyr, more burning in hell with Hattie Jacques sat on his face for all eternity..... And maybe so, that the term is perhaps inaccurate but you only have to look over to Northern Ireland to see that Adams - a man who's voice was banned from being broadcast for years and his former IRA General McGuiness are now prominent players in the Governing of a Province they helped tear apart in the 70s and 80s. Edited December 6, 2013 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Bin Laden was not fighting for recognition of a race, for a continent plundered by the Western World for Centuries. Unlike Mandela who wanted Africa and the black peoples therein to have a voice. Bin Laden was simply pissed off that the Allies in 1990-91 refused his offer of support and instead launched attacks from perceived sacred Saudi soil in order to attack Muslim nations. He was definitely not a freedom fighter more a rich moralist in his eyes protecting the rights of the middle Eastern Sheiks to police sacred Muslim soil themselves rather than surrendering to the will of the Western infidel. Probably the PC term is a religious fundamentalist or increasingly what we know as a radical muslim. Either way I suspect he's not enjoying his 70 virgins in paradise as a martyr, more burning in hell with Hattie Jacques sat on his face for all eternity..... And maybe so, that the term is perhaps inaccurate but you only have to look over to Northern Ireland to see that Adams - a man who's voice was banned from being broadcast for years and his former IRA General McGuiness are now prominent players in the Governing of a Province they helped tear apart in the 70s and 80s. He might've been a fan of BBW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Usually, termed by someone less than fastidious in their choices of hero's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Not really scratch. I'd say it is said by someone who is sympathetic to the plight then the next person. Edited December 6, 2013 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SholverBlue Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Quite a few innocent people died in his name, regardless of your view on him. He was no Saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Not really scratch. I'd say it is said by someone who is empathetic to a plight. Oh dear, i'm not even going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I did reword that. - I'm also going to leave this, I dont come on here for a political debate. I post on here to talk about Latics / general mundane crap. Edited December 6, 2013 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I did reword that. - I'm also going to leave this, I dont come on here for a political debate. I post on here to talk about Latics / general mundane crap. I just post mundane crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Quite a few innocent people died in his name, regardless of your view on him. He was no Saint. Absolutely, but they also did for Ghandi, Guavera and Martin Luther King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Minute's applause possible tomorrow. BBC plans say is being looked at for all FA Cup ties this weekend. I respect the bloke immensely and all that, but this is getting silly now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/20131206-mandela-1219700.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Honey pot thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/20131206-mandela-1219700.aspx Really? Jesus wept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullet Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Really? Jesus wept. What does it say? I can't view a couple of the OS's stories at the moment for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Confirmed minute's applause tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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