singe Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Other events I instinctively recall where I was. Not Mandela's release. Then I checked, and understood why. 3 days later was the St Valentines Day Massacre. RIP Mandela. Quote
lancy lad Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Aye RIP Mandela. Singe, I will never forget February 14th 1990... I reckon that was the best night of my life and would only be bettered by a night with Michelle Keegan (to which I reckon would be all over in about 14 seconds) Quote
MAC0AFC Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) 14 seconds is optimistic? she'd take her socks off and many would be finished for the night... RIP Mandela Edited December 5, 2013 by kieranmcandrew Quote
Pure Elvis 1977 Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? Quote
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 To some. I'd consider Margaret Thatcher a terrorist, but others wouldn't. Quote
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Quote
youngen Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Osama Bin laden was some freedom fighter Quote
opinions4u Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Wasn't Mandela a terrorist before he got put away ? A response to state murder of protesters. Quote
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Bin Laden was not fighting for recognition of a race, for a continent plundered by the Western World for Centuries. Unlike Mandela who wanted Africa and the black peoples therein to have a voice. Bin Laden was simply pissed off that the Allies in 1990-91 refused his offer of support and instead launched attacks from perceived sacred Saudi soil in order to attack Muslim nations. He was definitely not a freedom fighter more a rich moralist in his eyes protecting the rights of the middle Eastern Sheiks to police sacred Muslim soil themselves rather than surrendering to the will of the Western infidel. Probably the PC term is a religious fundamentalist or increasingly what we know as a radical muslim. Either way I suspect he's not enjoying his 70 virgins in paradise as a martyr, more burning in hell with Hattie Jacques sat on his face for all eternity..... And maybe so, that the term is perhaps inaccurate but you only have to look over to Northern Ireland to see that Adams - a man who's voice was banned from being broadcast for years and his former IRA General McGuiness are now prominent players in the Governing of a Province they helped tear apart in the 70s and 80s. Edited December 6, 2013 by oafcprozac Quote
beag_teeets Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Bin Laden was not fighting for recognition of a race, for a continent plundered by the Western World for Centuries. Unlike Mandela who wanted Africa and the black peoples therein to have a voice. Bin Laden was simply pissed off that the Allies in 1990-91 refused his offer of support and instead launched attacks from perceived sacred Saudi soil in order to attack Muslim nations. He was definitely not a freedom fighter more a rich moralist in his eyes protecting the rights of the middle Eastern Sheiks to police sacred Muslim soil themselves rather than surrendering to the will of the Western infidel. Probably the PC term is a religious fundamentalist or increasingly what we know as a radical muslim. Either way I suspect he's not enjoying his 70 virgins in paradise as a martyr, more burning in hell with Hattie Jacques sat on his face for all eternity..... And maybe so, that the term is perhaps inaccurate but you only have to look over to Northern Ireland to see that Adams - a man who's voice was banned from being broadcast for years and his former IRA General McGuiness are now prominent players in the Governing of a Province they helped tear apart in the 70s and 80s. He might've been a fan of BBW? Quote
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter..... Usually, termed by someone less than fastidious in their choices of hero's. Quote
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Not really scratch. I'd say it is said by someone who is sympathetic to the plight then the next person. Edited December 6, 2013 by pukka Quote
SholverBlue Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Quite a few innocent people died in his name, regardless of your view on him. He was no Saint. Quote
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Not really scratch. I'd say it is said by someone who is empathetic to a plight. Oh dear, i'm not even going there. Quote
pukka Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I did reword that. - I'm also going to leave this, I dont come on here for a political debate. I post on here to talk about Latics / general mundane crap. Edited December 6, 2013 by pukka Quote
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 I did reword that. - I'm also going to leave this, I dont come on here for a political debate. I post on here to talk about Latics / general mundane crap. I just post mundane crap. Quote
oafcprozac Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Quite a few innocent people died in his name, regardless of your view on him. He was no Saint. Absolutely, but they also did for Ghandi, Guavera and Martin Luther King. Quote
jsslatic Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Minute's applause possible tomorrow. BBC plans say is being looked at for all FA Cup ties this weekend. I respect the bloke immensely and all that, but this is getting silly now. Quote
doctor evil Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/20131206-mandela-1219700.aspx Quote
beag_teeets Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/20131206-mandela-1219700.aspx Really? Jesus wept. Quote
Mullet Posted December 6, 2013 Posted December 6, 2013 Really? Jesus wept. What does it say? I can't view a couple of the OS's stories at the moment for some reason. Quote
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