opinions4u Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Neither of tonight's head injuries were genuine. What can be done to stop this blatant abuse of the requirement for the referee to stop the game, without endangering players who have a genuine head injury? Oh, and if we want to compete a drop ball we should be allowed to do so.
Blu-Blood Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 We should just use it ourselves when we are under pressure. Kill the oppositions momentum like they did with us on numerous occasions tonight. I agree that it's out of order but if everyone else does it, let's have some of it ourselves!
disjointed Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 What can you do about it, after the ref stopped play it was obvious, I suppose the ref could book them for ungentlemanly conduct, if you cant beat em, join em . Damm frustrating and LJ even had a go at Wes after he gave them the ball back after he told Grounds to keep it.
JoeLatics Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Neither of tonight's head injuries were genuine. What can be done to stop this blatant abuse of the requirement for the referee to stop the game, without endangering players who have a genuine head injury? Oh, and if we want to compete a drop ball we should be allowed to do so. As a ref, if I even suspect a head injury I'm going to stop play... Much rather break up play for no reason than have a guy lying there with a genuinely injury without treatment for a second longer than he has to. And there's no Law saying that teams can't compete drop balls, just considered good sportsmanship so most teams comply.
super_blue Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Every team wastes time better when in front than us. we're rubbish at it and always have been from my memory!
rudemedic Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 An easy solution is to ensure that every player who goes off with a head injury has to complete the short assessment they have in Rugby before they can go back on, keeps genuine ones safe and stops non-genuine ones.
disjointed Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 As a ref, if I even suspect a head injury I'm going to stop play... Much rather break up play for no reason than have a guy lying there with a genuinely injury without treatment for a second longer than he has to. And there's no Law saying that teams can't compete drop balls, just considered good sportsmanship so most teams comply. Drop balls should be contested, it is a great opportunity to kick f**k out of somebodys shin.
JoeLatics Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 An easy solution is to ensure that every player who goes off with a head injury has to complete the short assessment they have in Rugby before they can go back on, keeps genuine ones safe and stops non-genuine ones. Good idea for the professional game but frankly I wouldn't trust the Under 14s coach to conduct a thorough neuro exam at the level I ref at!
Blu-Blood Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 An easy solution is to ensure that every player who goes off with a head injury has to complete the short assessment they have in Rugby before they can go back on, keeps genuine ones safe and stops non-genuine ones. Agree with this 100%.....i'm sick of players going off, ball being booted back to Oxley and before we get the ball back in their half, the player who had a major injury is back on in position fresh as a daisy....killing any momentum we had going forward!
longtimeblue Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Were we under any obligation (proper football rules rather than moral) to throw it back to them for the second one? Looked like Johnson was telling them to keep hold and it wound me up when we gave it them back.
rudemedic Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Good idea for the professional game but frankly I wouldn't trust the Under 14s coach to conduct a thorough neuro exam at the level I ref at! Neither would I, but most of the questions are stuff anyone who is OK can tell you, like what day is it, what's the score, who are we playing etc. It doesn't need introducing at that level, any doubt and the player comes off and any ref should stop the game if they suspect a head injury.
opinions4u Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 An easy solution is to ensure that every player who goes off with a head injury has to complete the short assessment they have in Rugby before they can go back on, keeps genuine ones safe and stops non-genuine ones. I wasn't expecting a solution to the question. So simple too.
jbrown23 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 An easy solution is to ensure that every player who goes off with a head injury has to complete the short assessment they have in Rugby before they can go back on, keeps genuine ones safe and stops non-genuine ones. This is probably the best way to stop it. Or perhaps let the physio come on while play continues like in Rugby. The ref acknowledges the possible head injury, waves the physio on and stops the game at the next break in play. Then the player must go off and complete an assessment like rudemedic suggests
disjointed Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I wasn't expecting a solution to the question. So simple too. You should know better O4U, the answers to everything can be found on OWTB.
jsslatic Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 When a player goes down injured they should be moved off the pitch for treatment unless they need to be stretchered off. There's no need to be sitting in the six yard box sipping Lucozade whilst the physio gives you a stroke (so to speak).
ChaddySmoker Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Drop balls should be contested, it is a great opportunity to kick f**k out of somebodys shin. When I played in the Oldham Sunday League, I had a golden rule-don't kick the ball before the ginger scottish midfield tw-t does!
Hands on Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 The truth is we played a team that was better than us in every department including fouls and tactical injuries. It is the 'professional' side of the game that I hate. We were doing well until they changed the momentum!
Gaz_Oafc Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 While we're on about time wasting... why the :censored: are goalkeepers allowed to take the goal kick from the opposite side of the box the where the ball went out of play? You can't do it for a corner, so why do they get away with it!
rudemedic Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Something for Wolves to aspire too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25944464
rudemedic Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) While we're on about time wasting... why the :censored: are goalkeepers allowed to take the goal kick from the opposite side of the box the where the ball went out of play? You can't do it for a corner, so why do they get away with it! It's in the rules. Perhaps the refs should cotton on to this easy method of wasting time a bit more readily. Didn't that GK go straight out of play before the halfway line anyway? Edited January 29, 2014 by rudemedic
opinions4u Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 A rule introduced specifically to reduce time wasting!
tangerinedreams Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) When a player goes down injured they should be moved off the pitch for treatment unless they need to be stretchered off. There's no need to be sitting in the six yard box sipping Lucozade whilst the physio gives you a stroke (so to speak). I thought any treatment given had to be done so off the pitch, wasn't sure whether it was just one of those things that isn't really enforced... Edited January 29, 2014 by tangerinedreams
beag_teeets Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I had an idea the other week, if a player has to go off for treatment then the player that caused the treatment should also go off until they are both called back on by the ref. The idea of the "go off after treatment" was to stop the feigning injury we are discussing here. But we have all seen cases where the player is injured and to me it isn't fair that a player is nobbled and then his team is disadvantaged by the offending team having 11 men on the pitch.
joe_lead Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Absolute fantastic idea - could I add that, before they go back on, they should be assessed properly at the Royal A&E and made to sit in the waiting room for however long it takes. Ownership of a can Ralex and a Physiotherapy Certificate from the University of Gabon is no qualification for determining the extent of brain damage imparted by an unrestrained shirt sleeve.
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