stargazer Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I've seen us fail to beat a team with 9 men before... I can think of 2 occasions straight off , Sheff Utd in the first division(Premier League as it is called now) and Newcastle back in the 80's when Keegan played for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 wouldn't mind seeing mellor LB, Winchester RB... i know many don't rate these two at all but given a chance at full back they could do well, both attacking minded and put in decent performances when they've played their this season, both would put in an excellent delivery to stead/mcdonald/JCH! I'd like to see grounds back in his most comfortable position (which for me IS NOW centre back) with my choice preferably Wilson, Lockwood is doing okay but do we really want an old flogger at CB in the long term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 That's a fairly rare example of a genuine considered tactical change from Dickov. For every one of them i will raise you 3 10 minute cameos of JVM up front looking confused how he got there. very very true, the initial point about dickovs substitution is valid.. but there was many many more where he made no change at all and left us all pondering as to why he didn't make a sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 very very true, the initial point about dickovs substitution is valid.. but there was many many more where he made no change at all and left us all pondering as to why he didn't make a sub He didn't feel like he had anyone worth bringing on maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 wouldn't mind seeing mellor LB, Winchester RB... i know many don't rate these two at all but given a chance at full back they could do well, both attacking minded and put in decent performances when they've played their this season, both would put in an excellent delivery to stead/mcdonald/JCH! I'd like to see grounds back in his most comfortable position (which for me IS NOW centre back) with my choice preferably Wilson, Lockwood is doing okay but do we really want an old flogger at CB in the long term? Agree with this almost completely (I don't see that Kasunga is not a far better footballer than either Wilson or Lockwood.) We have neither the players, nor fans with the appetite for, direct football. Our fullbacks must provide an outlet that can progress the game which the two names mentioned would. Sit Wes and Smith in front with Philiskirk tucked in behind the front man. Any two from Harkins, Dayton and Worrall playing wide with licence to push high up the pitch. Moving forward, that is the team that allows our best players on the pitch, with the fluidity to play the ball through from back to front. I suppose it all depends on how many of those stay fit as to whether we can keep our heads above water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Have just seen that Kasunga is out for 6 weeks - doesn't bode well!! Probably Wilson in for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Isn't the biggest parallel the enormous turnover of players? Giving a manager 3 to 5 years is all well and good but he's facing an uphill struggle (or creating one for himself) if every season sees 30 odd players getting a runout. A target for next season should be to use a maximum of 20 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Isn't the biggest parallel the enormous turnover of players? Giving a manager 3 to 5 years is all well and good but he's facing an uphill struggle (or creating one for himself) if every season sees 30 odd players getting a runout. A target for next season should be to use a maximum of 20 players. I agree Harry, also fans can't identify with an ever changing team. I know I'm considered a dinosaur, but it seems during the Jimmy Frizzell and Big Joe eras the same players were at the club for several years and legends were created. Perhaps Bosman changed all that. Edited February 27, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I can think of 2 occasions straight off , Sheff Utd in the first division(Premier League as it is called now) and Newcastle back in the 80's when Keegan played for them. Scunthorpe under Sheridan too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Any facts to support that view? Last season: Colchester: One down at half time, changes led to a draw. Carlisle: 2-0 down, three changes completely altered the pattern of the game and we nearly got a point. Bury: Kirk Millar came on and his cross for the goal helped win the game. This season: Peterborough away: Charlie Mac scored after coming on along with Kirk Millar at 2-0 down, we nearly got a 2-2 draw. Crewe: 0-1 at HT, made a change at the break and we scored within 10 mins of the restart. Swindon home: At 1-1 Schmeltz and JCH came on and soon after we got the winner. Notts County away: 0-1 after 30 mins LJ brings on JCH and, despite our defending being :censored:, LJ sees the need to change our attack and doesn't mess around which earns us 2 goals. Shrewsbury away: JCH comes on at 1-0 down on 35 and we are level at the break, Wes and Schmeltz come on halfway through the 2nd half which helps us to a 2-1 win. Mansfield away: At 0-1, Lanzoni comes on at HT, gets forward well, gets a goal and helps us to a 4-1 win. Peterborough home: Connor Brown, Harkins to the left, 0-3 to 5-4, 'nuff said. Swindon away: Brings on Stead for JCH, within 10 mins he's involved in Grounds scoring the winner. MK last night. True there's a couple of indirect examples in there, but even taking into account Dickov's 1st 6 months I doubt he changed games as much as Johnson has and Dickov had an extra 2 years to do so. Edited February 27, 2014 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We still lost some of them games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We still lost some of them games! So? His in-game changes still made a difference to the pattern of the play and nearly got us a point from a position of almost certain defeat. Dickov had the odd incredible comeback but not much else and so many times when we were 1-0 down defeat was nigh on inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 14 points lost from winning positions so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 14 points lost from winning positions so far this season. How many gained from losing positions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 How many gained from losing positions? 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Which is not too shabby, but on the other hand we have conceded the first goal 21/33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I prefer Harkins to Baxter. There. Said it. Give it 6 months. I'm not saying you personally will be saying it, but there will be plenty moaning about Harkins being a right lazy sod. Or calling him crap because he no longer plays for us. Whilst, of course, the rest of us will just be glad we've got/had at least one player who is capable of entertaining us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Heck C-Beck Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The biggest parallel with Dickov is a lack of goals from the defense and especially the midfield. Are we just unlucky, are these players too expensive, or are the managers not putting enough emphasis on this or is it tactics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Give it 6 months. I'm not saying you personally will be saying it, but there will be plenty moaning about Harkins being a right lazy sod. Or calling him crap because he no longer plays for us. Whilst, of course, the rest of us will just be glad we've got/had at least one player who is capable of entertaining us. I wouldn't disagree with the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 12. If we went 1 0 up, then 1 2 down, and ended up drawing 2 2 , is it two points lost or one point gained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 If we went 1 0 up, then 1 2 down, and ended up drawing 2 2 , is it two points lost or one point gained? We don't do two in a game any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 this stat is as useful as the one which used to tell us how much more possesion or how many more shots we had even though we would get beat every week. only stat what goes in the book is the points weve got and hopefully we can get to the 50 point mark sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Whatever the parallels I still have faith in LJ. When we were in at HT under Dickov, I wasn't particularly confident of his changes/tactics. The opposition usually seemed to spring a step on us. That has happened under LJ now and then - wolves away in league for example. But the vast majority of the time, if we are losing at the break - particularly by just one goal - I'm very confident he'll make a change, improve us and we'll get a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc1895 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 2 points and 7 places better off this season than last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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