HarryBosch Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Ridiculous to even have such a poll in my opinion but, at a glance, the threads on this messageboard would suggest a few do genuinely want him out - let's see if they're just an unsilent minority, or otherwise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 voted in purely to see if he can learn from his mistakes and it would cost us money we dont have and who would we end up with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't think he's got it. But I have no faith that we'd replace him with someone better, so I'm indifferent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Voted in - CORNEY OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Voted in - CORNEY OUT Again, how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Voted in - CORNEY OUT Sadly I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If we had any chance of appointing anything but a "cheap option" to replace him then I'd consider voting 'out'. But we don't, so we might as well stick with what we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs9NgGZkErU&feature=kp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyleArmy1994 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 IN by a country mile! League 2 or not, Im sticking by him. I have faith he will come good, I just hope that come next season he takes everything he has learnt from this season and corrects it for the next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonLatics Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'm with RoyalArmy, Johnson in regardless of what league we're in next year....Rome wasn't built in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 In, the only way to improve is stability, but if we go down - out. I'd love to know though why Johnson isn't getting the stick that Penney got from some of our "supporters". What has he done to deserve more time? No "GET OUT OF OUR CLUB..." Chants. I'm not saying that should happen at all, but the mentality of some fans baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Regardless of what happens this season I see absolutely no benefit to getting rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I can't see what alternatives there are? He's on a lengthy contract. The last few managers have been easily the cheaper end of the managerial market - Shez, Dickov & LJ and I bet Penney didnt break the bank either. I don't see why the next one would be any different? Anyways, Dickov had a decent amount of time to show whether or not he had "it" and could learn from his mistakes. Ultimately he didn't and he went. LJ hasnt been afford that same amount of time to show if he can learn and develop as manager. I'm honestly not sure; he showed real promise but i'm serious starting to wonder if he does indeed have "it" in him to be what we need / has what it takes to be a successful manager. Voted In due to lack of other options. Sacking now would only add to; not help, our current situation IMO. Edited March 13, 2014 by slystallone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Voted in,hopefully he can learn from his mistakes,this time next season who knows!!No point in gettin rid now he's worth another season atleast ,dickov had the best part of 3 seasons,let the guy learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) In, the only way to improve is stability, but if we go down - out. I'd love to know though why Johnson isn't getting the stick that Penney got from some of our "supporters". What has he done to deserve more time? No "GET OUT OF OUR CLUB..." Chants. I'm not saying that should happen at all, but the mentality of some fans baffles me. May be its a case that Lee like Dickov at least communicated with the fans which may have endeared the fans to be a bit more patient rather than strut around with a dont give a chuff what the fans think.... We all knew this was a transitional season. The contrast for me was the rotherham match on Tuesday compared to the reverse fixture and what a bloody difference eh Edited March 13, 2014 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I can't see what alternatives there are? He's on a lengthy contract. The last few managers have been easily the cheaper end of the managerial market - Shez, Dickov & LJ and I bet Penney didnt break the bank either. I don't see why the next one would be any different? Anyways, Dickov had a decent amount of time to show whether or not he had "it" and could learn from his mistakes. Ultimately he didn't and he went. LJ hasnt been afford that same amount of time to show if he can learn and develop as manager. I'm honestly not sure; he showed real promise but i'm serious starting to wonder if he does indeed have "it" in him to be what we need / has what it takes to be a successful manager. Voted In due to lack of other options. Sacking now would only add to; not help, our current situation IMO. I take all our points, but we were told that Johnson had been preparing for management for years so I don't see why 12 months into the job he should still be in the learning phase. Trying to come up with positives for him and all I've really got is getting improved performances out of Tarkowski and Wesolowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I take all our points, but we were told that Johnson had been preparing for management for years so I don't see why 12 months into the job he should still be in the learning phase. Trying to come up with positives for him and all I've really got is getting improved performances out of Tarkowski and Wesolowski. Of course he should be learning, any manager should but particularly one who has only been doing the job for a year. However, in any job, sometimes you can see pretty quickly that someone isn't going to be up to the job, regardless of how long you give them and that's where I'm at. I'll be thrilled if Johnson proves me wrong but I don't think he's got it in him. As for the improvements, Wes was never as bad as some have made out - don't forget, he's won promotion from this league which probably can't be said for anyone else in our squad (edit: other than Korey Smith, now I think of it). Tarkowski was always a talented player, Philliskirk saw it, but yes he developed a great deal this season under Johnson. Winchester, Mellor and Millar - for all some people were lauding Johnson's role in their 'development' earlier in the season - are the counter argument. Edited March 13, 2014 by Stevie_J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Villains Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 sack the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) In, the only way to improve is stability, but if we go down - out. I'd love to know though why Johnson isn't getting the stick that Penney got from some of our "supporters". What has he done to deserve more time? No "GET OUT OF OUR CLUB..." Chants. I'm not saying that should happen at all, but the mentality of some fans baffles me. To enhance thatAfter 36 games Penney had W10 D10 L16 P40 GF30 GC43 GD-13 (In 17th position but with games in hand- some teams had played 38, but some 34) Johnson is W10 D8 L18 P38 GF40 GC53 GD-13 (In 18th position) Similar but Penney is better #oafc I actually thought Penney was doing an OK job at times, as he was obviously trying to make us hard to beat (only 6 teams had a better Goals conceded stat than us), but in doing so we struggled to score, we were the lowest scorers at the time. I think that when underdog said that Johnson communicates with fans is the reason why he isn't getting calls for his head she is probably right. Edited March 13, 2014 by rudemedic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 In, the only way to improve is stability, but if we go down - out. I'd keep him if we went down, largely because I'd want to see us keep together a squad and management team that could have a crack at coming back up. What would your reasons be for sacking him? And more pertinently who (or what type of candidate) would you want to replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelatics Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 LJ in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I'd keep him if we went down, largely because I'd want to see us keep together a squad and management team that could have a crack at coming back up. What would your reasons be for sacking him? And more pertinently who (or what type of candidate) would you want to replace him? Out of interest, how many from the current squad would you keep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If we go down anybody worth keeping won't be staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Out of interest, how many from the current squad would you keep? Hard to say, obviously a lot depends on contracts etc. Primarily - and off the top of my head - I'd like to think we could keep Clarke-Harris, Turner, Brown, Dayton, Mellor, Winchester along with the tyros from the youth team and use them as the core of a young, settled(ish) squad that could compete at League 2 level. I've chosen them as I think they're realistic bets to stay either due to their contract status or potential lack of interest from other clubs (this is Dayton, though I think he's a long shot as he seems to be highly rated). Lockwood is probably a good shout to stay as well, I think he'd be useful as an old head in a young League 2 side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paw4 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lee's been unlucky in his first year of management, all our players with flair and speed have for one reason or another gone down the river.. Monty ( where's the bookies ), Sid ( who I thought would make it ), Rooney ( forget the flair and speed thing in his case, I didn't see any), Tarky (FEC). Potential players who have never really developed: Winchester, Mellor ( and a few others ). On recent performances we have a goalkeeper who's not quite sure what is hands are for, who doesn't control his area and is about as happy to see a cross as Jesus!! Why does he keep sending high balls in when we have only small players up top, I can understand it when we have Jonno up top but not with Philly and McDonnald. Players that I'm happy about, Grounds ( but not as full back ), Philly ( but not out wide ), Clarke-Harris ( The Beast ),McDonnald and Brown Players I'm not sure about Dayton ( I'm getting bored now ), I think Lee panicked a bit and brought in players he knew who he thought could do a job ( and I'm not sure they are yet ) So as far as I'm concerned this is a steep learning curve for Lee, he will learn a lot and end up a better manager for it, KEEP THE FAITH, we won't go down..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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