deyres42 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Trolling aside, it is the volume of glee being expressed at the prospect of the signing that I find most disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 A jury who listened to all the facts of the case thought there was no reasonable doubt as to Evans' guilt but enough doubt not to convict Mcdonald. Even still McDonald should be implicated then as an accessory to rape as he was in the same room when Ched initiated intercourse and did nothing to stop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Surely LJ doesn't want him? This is a worrying aspect for me. All that guff about a properly researched player, fitting into the team and all that. Will be proved a load of bollocks if he signes. I will be very sceptical of anything Lee Johnson says if we sign him. In fact, I'll call him out as a bull:censored:ter if we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And a short term contract would be an even bigger piss take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Even still McDonald should be implicated then as an accessory to rape as he was in the same room when Ched initiated intercourse and did nothing to stop it? An accessory to rape would involve an act such as holding her down whilst said act took place - as I've said in a previous thread however morally repulsive to witness a crime and not intervene is not an offence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) And a short term contract would be an even bigger piss take. Exactly, you watch how fast he'll jump ship if his conviction is overturned. Edited January 4, 2015 by Gaz_Oafc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 What's all this 1 in 3 about? You need to put it into context for our level. He spent 1 season playing in league 1 and got 29 goals in 36 games. Get him signed up. I just pray that he has the mental strength to deal with the abuse that he will get from the fans and rewards us with loyalty should other more 'desirable' clubs come sniffing around after the furore has died down or if begets his conviction quashed? He been out for months so has had ample time to test the water elsewhere. His representatives should have been in contact with every club, they wouldn't take him then so they can sod off in future if he's banging them in for fun. He cost £3m, that's 4 times our all time record transfer spend, Ian Olney, and you can bet that due to the time involved and the fact clubs are fighting over him there won't be a signing on fee. £3m striker for free? Yes please! In a side that had better players than we do currently? Yep. And before he's spent 2 and half years, plus what; 3/4 months of not even professionally training, let alone playing professional football. I struggle to see how he can be anywhere near fitness; let alone match fitness and sharpness. Short term deal? He'll be just about getting there as the season and his deal ends. And to what end? A couple of goals if we're lucky. And to what detriment? A whole host of fans by the lucks of it, and perm damaged to our reputation. Calculated risk? Whoever has done the calculating has got it way, way wrong IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) What's all this 1 in 3 about? You need to put it into context for our level. He spent 1 season playing in league 1 and got 29 goals in 36 games. Get him signed up. I just pray that he has the mental strength to deal with the abuse that he will get from the fans and rewards us with loyalty should other more 'desirable' clubs come sniffing around after the furore has died down or if begets his conviction quashed? He been out for months so has had ample time to test the water elsewhere. His representatives should have been in contact with every club, they wouldn't take him then so they can sod off in future if he's banging them in for fun. He cost £3m, that's 4 times our all time record transfer spend, Ian Olney, and you can bet that due to the time involved and the fact clubs are fighting over him there won't be a signing on fee. £3m striker for free? Yes please! Dear God. Something as bigger than football. I am definitley liberal leaning. But let him get cleared first. His mind needs to be on that. PLus he won't be free, there will be costs, And a loss of fans to recoup. And we are not signing the player that scored 29 in 36. a) That was now a long time ago b ) He is way off match fit Edited January 4, 2015 by singe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You do realise that Ched Evans had been drinking? I doubt a sober guy would lick a girls front bottom after their mate had bare backed her. He deserved jailing for that alone, consent or no consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Won't stop me supporting the club I love and have supported through thick and thin for the last 25 years Agree completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 In a side that had better players than we do currently? Yep. And before he's spent 2 and half years, plus what; 3/4 months of not even professionally training, let alone playing professional football. I struggle to see how he can be anywhere near fitness; let alone match fitness and sharpness. Short term deal? He'll be just about getting there as the season and his deal ends. And to what end? A couple of goals if we're lucky. And to what detriment? A whole host of fans by the lucks of it, and perm damaged to our reputation. Calculated risk? Whoever has done the calculating has got it way, way wrong IMO... This, Every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is a worrying aspect for me. All that guff about a properly researched player, fitting into the team and all that. Will be proved a load of bollocks if he signes. I will be very sceptical of anything Lee Johnson says if we sign him. In fact, I'll call him out as a bull:censored:ter if we do. Yep, good point. Due dilligance my arse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He's said a few times that he'll only sign players with the right attitude, personality ect. that will fit in with the squad. Probably hasn't had a say in it. I'd expect him to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The short term contract will be heavily weighted in the clubs favour with clauses etc to extended should he make X apperances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Is Salem in Oldham? Oh it is. Mob mentality at its most dangerous. Read the Spectator link . The Mail link with video statement and look into the actual case. Too many DOUBTS in my mind. Being convicted does NOT mean it's the right decision, it's just some people's opinion & unfortunately jury's reflect society, which as can be witnessed on here mob mentality prevails. Luckily it's not the 17th Century or I suspect Ched Evans would have already been lynched, which considering the case is being reviewed is something to reflect upon. Yet he was not given leave to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Your biggest fear is the club backing out of the deal? Not the club signing a convicted rapest? Backing out and not signing him? Wow. Sly! you're one of the smartest posters on here generally. You're taking me slightly out of context though. What I mean is, if the club believes we should sign him then just do it and announce it as fait a complit.......no need to test the water, they must know there will be outcry so if they haven't already weighed up all the issues then they are truly incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Evans hasn't shown an iota of remorse for his actions. I'm sick of hearing this. He's been convicted of a crime for which he claims innocence. If he believes that he is innocent, why would he show remorse? Why should he show remorse? This particular criticism makes no sense. He sounds very much to me like he thinks he can treat women however he pleases without consequences, arguably the most vile product of 'Lad culture'. His crime was appalling, his conduct since almost as bad. Utter twaddle. Pseudo psychological guesswork based on nothing but your own opinion that he's guilty. I believe the phrase is "innocent until found guilty" - well he's been found guilty, and that's what I'll believe until such a time that the conviction is overturned! Good to see you are so open minded. Edited January 4, 2015 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 My opinion for what its worth is I hope it isn't true as I don't want the club getting attention for the wrong reasons. It will all be negative. I don't give a :censored: what other football clubs fans think as if it was their club it would be like this. Some never going again , some disgusted and some trying to reason its a good thing. If we sign him I will support Oldham Athletic and still watch. I will even cheer if he scores because its for my team who I've supported for 30 years. I don't have to agree with it. I don't have to like it. One of the things that gripes me (convictions aside) l don't even think he is that good. Will he score 20 goals for my team ? Whether people like it or not the law in our country is set up in away that if found guilty you serve your sentence and you are free to carry on with your life. No where does it state that you can't work in a job that some deem to be privileged. For all those who will stop going. Do you remember when Oldham Athletic went out of business when Lee Hughes signed? Why cut your nose off to spitevyour face? Morals are one thing but you as a small minority won't change it IF he signs. I hope he is signing for Barnsley but if not then Come on Oldham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Sly! you're one of the smartest posters on here generally. You're taking me slightly out of context though. What I mean is, if the club believes we should sign him then just do it and announce it as fait a complit.......no need to test the water, they must know there will be outcry so if they haven't already weighed up all the issues then they are truly incompetent. Apologies, I get what you mean now. I think? As in, our names already sullied with all this; so might aswell sign him now as a result? If i've got that right, then i disagree. Think this is still salvagable from the club's PoV. After due consideration of their own fans views, the club can decide to not proceed. In the immediate aftermath; maybe have one of our home games dedicated to a rape charity or rape support group and do bucket collection and the like. Seek to make ammends. Its not too late for the club to reverse and U-turn this decision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 My opinion for what its worth is I hope it isn't true as I don't want the club getting attention for the wrong reasons. It will all be negative. I don't give a :censored: what other football clubs fans think as if it was their club it would be like this. Some never going again , some disgusted and some trying to reason its a good thing. If we sign him I will support Oldham Athletic and still watch. I will even cheer if he scores because its for my team who I've supported for 30 years. I don't have to agree with it. I don't have to like it. One of the things that gripes me (convictions aside) l don't even think he is that good. Will he score 20 goals for my team ? Whether people like it or not the law in our country is set up in away that if found guilty you serve your sentence and you are free to carry on with your life. No where does it state that you can't work in a job that some deem to be privileged. For all those who will stop going. Do you remember when Oldham Athletic went out of business when Lee Hughes signed? Why cut your nose off to spitevyour face? Morals are one thing but you as a small minority won't change it IF he signs. I hope he is signing for Barnsley but if not then Come on Oldham! I hope, and I think, its more than a small minority Palmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Matt Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 When we beat Doncaster 4 nil with Chedwyn making a goal scoring appearance off the bench the world will be a better place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I got so much :censored: for saying sign him. Glad there are people with a football brain at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oh and after giving the benefit of the doubt for a few years now... Barry Owen fans representative? Lol biggest pile of bollocks since someone mentioned an unsinkable ship called the titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Lol biggest pile of bollocks since someone mentioned an unsinkable ship called the titanic. You've got a long memory. Edited January 4, 2015 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grylls Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The short term contract will be heavily weighted in the clubs favour with clauses etc to extended should he make X apperances. I hope so, otherwise it really is a pointless and thankless task to offer him terms in the first place. Whilst he won't be 'match sharp', I see no reason to see that he wouldn't be physically capable of competing - for all we know he could have been running marathons each day for the last few months. 2 and a bit months of solid isolated gym time soon adds up. Of the 3 people in the room, 2 say it was consensual (arguably without their statements to that effect there would have been no trial as there wasn't any physical evidence) and 1 says she can't remember. I don't wish to cause offence here but he got his willy wet with a drunken slapper, he didn't drag her off down a dark alley with a knife to her throat whilst she pleaded for the ordeal to end. The latter is the sort of mental image that comes to mind when you mention rape, the first happens throughout the World day in and day out. We've all see the t-shirt saying how beer helps ugly guys gets sex, the fact you can wear a jokey t-shirt like that speaks volumes. You don't see those t-shirts saying knives/chloroform etc help people get laid do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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