oafcmetty Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Interesting... http://www.supporters-direct.org/news-article/supporters-direct-statement? SD recognises the strength of feeling generated amongst supporters and supporters trusts by the situation with regard to Ched Evans. We would urge any supporters’ trusts thinking about making a statement on this situation to consult carefully amongst their membership and to ensure that any views expressed by trust officers are representative of their members’ views. In the specific case of the statement recently made by the chair of Trust Oldham, it should be noted that this organisation has not been a member of SD since it was de-registered by the Financial Services Authority in August 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Unless the trust was regidtered under an obscure name it was never FSA regulated Edited January 9, 2015 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Unless the trust was regidtered under an obscure name it was never FSA regulated Isn't the trust registered as Oldham Athletic Supporters Foundation Limited or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Unless the trust was regidtered under an obscure name it was never FSA regulated Hmmm. Apparently in 2012 the FCA cancelled the society’s registration for non filing of annual returns (according to SD). Must have been around the time that guy was pinching funds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Interesting... http://www.supporters-direct.org/news-article/supporters-direct-statement? SD recognises the strength of feeling generated amongst supporters and supporters trusts by the situation with regard to Ched Evans. We would urge any supporters trusts thinking about making a statement on this situation to consult carefully amongst their membership and to ensure that any views expressed by trust officers are representative of their members views. In the specific case of the statement recently made by the chair of Trust Oldham, it should be noted that this organisation has not been a member of SD since it was de-registered by the Financial Services Authority in August 2012 It would be difficult for the Trust to express a representation of members views when there is unlikely to be any agreement among them on this matter, that's assuming you can canvas them all. Edited January 9, 2015 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Also learnt that the Trust haven't had *any* communication with Supporter's Direct, since 2010, despite the claims on here: http://www.trustoldham.co.uk/about-us/supporters-direct/ (which is inaccurate and out of date). Astonishing really. Chris/Tracey - maybe you could ask at the next meeting why the Trust hasn't been a member of SD since 2010?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Barry stated at last year's AGM that he believed the Trust got no advantage from being a member of SD yet there was a fee involved in being a member therefore a decision was taken not to renew that membership. It was not said when that decision not to affiliate was taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Barry stated at last year's AGM that he believed the Trust got no advantage from being a member of SD yet there was a fee involved in being a member therefore a decision was taken not to renew that membership. It was not said when that decision not to affiliate was taken. Would it be wrong of me to suggest that the person at the Trust who was going to lose the most if the Trust retained it's membership was one Mr B. Owen? That therefore clouded his judgement, when making that decision, possibly because of questions about the democracy of the elections to the board, especially the Chair and membership logs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Also learnt that the Trust haven't had *any* communication with Supporter's Direct, since 2010, despite the claims on here: http://www.trustoldham.co.uk/about-us/supporters-direct/ (which is inaccurate and out of date). Astonishing really. Chris/Tracey - maybe you could ask at the next meeting why the Trust hasn't been a member of SD since 2010?? Hello Metty, think latics for life has explained why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Painful process moving away to the new structure too. Here's the entry: https://mutuals.fsa.gov.uk/SocietyDetails.aspx?Number=29820&Suffix=R And SD were kind enough to share some documents: Old rules (constitution) - http://speedy.sh/jZjKd/Oldham-Rules.pdf Company details - http://speedy.sh/b5bVE/COMPANY-DETAILS-09.01.15.docx PLC incorporation - http://speedy.sh/GxGdM/Oldham-Athletic-Supporters-Company-Memo-Arts.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Isn't the trust registered as Oldham Athletic Supporters Foundation Limited or something? There is a Company of that exact name which was formed at Companies House on 24/01/2014. Barry explained to me that it was previously under other types of mutual society or the like but they had replaced it with a Limited Company. Number 8860767 It is a private Company limited by guarantee rather than by share capital which is not out of the ordinary for a members body. Certain of the information is available but costs a fee from Companies House but there have been 2 new additions as Directors Simon Mark Brooke and Raymond Coverley who is also Company Secretary Edited January 9, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 :censored: me, what a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Piss up in a brewery comes to mind.... So the trust is trying to present itself as a member of supporters direct while not having any connections with them ? What the actual :censored:.... Amd todays suggestions from another poster about the 3% sure and you have one right fecking mess.... And I have no idea how the FSA got involved with the trust ?? News to me that one... Surely someone from the trust can clear all this up ASAP ? Edited January 10, 2015 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 000 from my pov the Trust haven't been presenting themselves as members of SD - it was decided that the page dedicated to SD on the website should stay as, though there are reasons for the non-membership,(Im not entirely clear what these are as I've never personally discussed it in detail - I will ask the question though), the principles of Trust/fan say/ownership are still aligned and we wanted to direct anyone that wanted to know more about SD to them. On this occasion it's my understanding that SD may have seen the way a couple of journalists referred to/paraphrased the name of the "Trust" and for some reason thought it worthy of a statement. Happy to clear up the rest to for you once I've met with fellow directors on Monday. I've got a game to get to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) 000 from my pov the Trust haven't been presenting themselves as members of SD - it was decided that the page dedicated to SD on the website should stay as, though there are reasons for the non-membership,(Im not entirely clear what these are as I've never personally discussed it in detail - I will ask the question though), the principles of Trust/fan say/ownership are still aligned and we wanted to direct anyone that wanted to know more about SD to them. Oh right... Well you are wrong... It very much gives people the impression you are affiliated with them.... I presumed you was still affiliated with them and there is nothing on the website to say otherwise is there? Only the opposite. Might be best to make it a bit more clear. I see zero reasoning for keeping it up unless you are part of their setup. In fact I am surprised they haven't asked / forced you to remove it. Its like a travel agent having similar stuff about APTA while not being affiliated with them.... Edited January 10, 2015 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Can't quite agree on the travel agent example but I'll take the rest onboard and review it - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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