NewBlue Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 http://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/2338658-transfer-window-special-market-insiders-on-how-the-deals-get-done Have a scroll down a bit and there's a very interesting section on how he recruits players. For those who can't be arsed reading it all he says he's sold £1.6m worth of players since he's been here, we would've gone down without the right recruitment in January last season, Elokobi was 12x out of our price range before the summer, 'I've signed a couple who've conned me [about players preferring the lifestyle rather than the football], 'we can't spend money' and a chat with Joe Royle about the Premier League reserve system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 "We can't spend money," he said. "So it might be someone who's been badly injured. Or someone who's gone through the youth system but will always be seen as a youngster and is the first to be dropped." Like Carl Winchester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 "We can't spend money," he said. "So it might be someone who's been badly injured. Or someone who's gone through the youth system but will always be seen as a youngster and is the first to be dropped." Like Carl Winchester? My first thought exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshOWTB Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Who have we sold in the last year?? I can't think how the team as a whole is worth £1.6mil yet alone a few players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Players sold since LJ has been manager: Baxter, Tarky, Smith, JCH. So we've blown the £350k myth out of the water then, given that it's £400k on average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Tarky add ons may be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Tarky add ons may be included. Indeed. We know we got an additional payment triggered on Brentford's promotion. How such clauses are allowed, I really don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I still don't get where Ched Evans fitted into the "We do character references for every player" claim though. I have hugely admited LJ, I hope he has learned, but when he says they "conned me" why not say I made a mistake on. No one can get recruitment 100%. No one is expecting hi to get it 100% right and his record is fairly good all told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 They all make it sound far more complicated than it probably is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Indeed. We know we got an additional payment triggered on Brentford's promotion. How such clauses are allowed, I really don't know. Why would they not be? Maybe I'm missing some potentially underhand aspects of these deals but they seem fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I still don't get where Ched Evans fitted into the "We do character references for every player" claim though. I have hugely admited LJ, I hope he has learned, but when he says they "conned me" why not say I made a mistake on. No one can get recruitment 100%. No one is expecting hi to get it 100% right and his record is fairly good all told. He's not daft, when applying for jobs later on in life maybe top jobs articles such as these will be researched and looked at. Everything he says has thought and meaning behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Why would they not be? Maybe I'm missing some potentially underhand aspects of these deals but they seem fair to me. Say that we were to play Brentford last game of the season and they needed a win to get promotion... We've got nothing to play for. By winning, we finish one place higher in midtable. By losing, we finish one place lower in midtable and end up £100k better off. Not great for Brentford's promotion rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 "We can't spend money," he said. "So it might be someone who's been badly injured. Or someone who's gone through the youth system but will always be seen as a youngster and is the first to be dropped." Like Carl Winchester? I was thinking of Kelly as the injured player and James Wilson as the youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Anyone guessing at players who "conned" johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Schmeltz? something was said about his lifestyle choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Montano for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonLatics Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Montano for one. Wasn't he a Dickov signing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Croft had earrings in once, meant he didn't care about the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Schmeltz? something was said about his lifestyle choices. Wasnt he driving around to City and United taking pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I was thinking of Kelly as the injured player and James Wilson as the youngster.Yep, he said just that about Wilson when he signed and Kelly is pretty obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Players sold since LJ has been manager: Baxter, Tarky, Smith, JCH. So we've blown the £350k myth out of the water then, given that it's £400k on average. Didn't we get something for Captain Sideways when LJ was the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Didn't we get something for Captain Sideways when LJ was the manager? There was a loan fee topped up with a promotion bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Say that we were to play Brentford last game of the season and they needed a win to get promotion... We've got nothing to play for. By winning, we finish one place higher in midtable. By losing, we finish one place lower in midtable and end up £100k better off. Not great for Brentford's promotion rivals. I suppose it's possible. Unlikely enough not to be a problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I suppose it's possible. Unlikely enough not to be a problem though. It clearly has potential to bring about a conflict of interest though. My example was extreme but say there are four games left and Latics have nothing to play for when they meet Brentford; there's a clear incentive to make sure Brentford get the points towards promotion. Shouldn't be allowed, in my opinion, just as the people involved betting on such things is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It clearly has potential to bring about a conflict of interest though. My example was extreme but say there are four games left and Latics have nothing to play for when they meet Brentford; there's a clear incentive to make sure Brentford get the points towards promotion. Shouldn't be allowed, in my opinion, just as the people involved betting on such things is not allowed. You make a good point. There's no reason they couldn't just structure deals to depend on appearances I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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