nzlatic Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I thought Taylor, O'Neill and Obedayi were brought in to change that, or is it despite Shez wanting to attack the coach is stifling them? When you look at the players most involved in attacks (full backs, midfield and up front) 5 of the 8 that started last night were new. So there shouldn't have been any residual lack of confidence or intent that the previous manager may have caused. I just think that's how we set up last night. Letting them come out of defence to create space in behind is absolutely fine. But we didn't then then press when in our half to try and win the ball back and counter quickly. I don't buy that the coach is so influential that the players ignore the manager just to do what he says. If that's what you're suggesting. Saying all that, I think we'll get enough points against teams in and around us to stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 We have to remember that last year we stayed up by playing pretty defensive football. It was better than what we'd seen previously but it was all based upon 1-0 wins. I don't see Shez changing anything dramatically this time round. It worked once and with a 50% win record since coming back it seems to be working again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 We have to remember that last year we stayed up by playing pretty defensive football. It was better than what we'd seen previously but it was all based upon 1-0 wins. I don't see Shez changing anything dramatically this time round. It worked once and with a 50% win record since coming back it seems to be working again. Yes. Last year wasn't pretty but it was better than what we'd seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Last night we set up and played for a 0-0 and it very nearly came off, let's put things in perspective a little and be realistic about expectations, a third of last night's team have hardly played 90 minutes all season never mind twice in four days, majority of last night's team played in a team on Saturday down to ten men for close on 55 minutes and Shez probably viewed last night as anything gained as a bonus, Saturday is a huge game and Shez probably has one eye on that, there's no doubt we are short up top but let's give them a week or two together before we judge whether they can score the goals to keep us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) When you look at the players most involved in attacks (full backs, midfield and up front) 5 of the 8 that started last night were new. So there shouldn't have been any residual lack of confidence or intent that the previous manager may have caused. I just think that's how we set up last night. Letting them come out of defence to create space in behind is absolutely fine. But we didn't then then press when in our half to try and win the ball back and counter quickly. I don't buy that the coach is so influential that the players ignore the manager just to do what he says. If that's what you're suggesting. Saying all that, I think we'll get enough points against teams in and around us to stay up. I do think the coach is responsible he spends most of the time with players on drills, he was all that was wrong with the previous regime teams and I'm amazed SR alone was left to carry the can. Why didn't he go too? Edited February 8, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I do think the coach is responsible he spends most of the time with players on drills, he was all that was wrong with the previous regime teams and I'm amazed SR alone was left to carry the can. Why didn't he go too? Money. More payoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I do think the coach is responsible he spends most of the time with players on drills, he was all that was wrong with the previous regime teams and I'm amazed SR alone was left to carry the can. Why didn't he go too? It might just be the case that he is a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Think the win at Chesterfield determined our approach at MK. Great win and 3 priceless points, with them in the bag i think Shez thought 4 point return from those 2 games would have been job done. It didn't work out but i am sure that we will be going for it at home as best we can with the players at our disposal. Every club in the land wants a striker that scores goals but unfortunately this season we have been last in line for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Got no issue whatsoever with setting up defensively last night to get a point and maybe nick the win if we could. It would've been more than I expected us to get. My issue would be if we set up like that at home and went on and lost. As happened a lot under Robbo. Shez has said already that he intends to play one way at home and another away from home. He's the old school "win at home, draw away"...and if you can nick a win or two on the road (ala Chesterfield) then happy days. Won't have been nice for anyone to watch last night however, but for the final few seconds, many would've been walking out saying "job done" and onto Saturday we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 It might just be the case that he is a good coach. He's been proving it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Can any of our stattos supply a list of this seasons league goal scorers in relation to minutes on the pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Can any of our stattos supply a list of this seasons league goal scorers in relation to minutes on the pitch? Clarke - 3 goals - 900 mins pg Erwin - 2 - 722 mins pg Law - 2 - 692 mins pg Ladapo - 2 - 514 mins pg (although his Shrews record is 3 goals at 139 mins, the :censored:er) The rest have one goal each, and range from the clinical Winchester (388 mins), to the "how can a professional footballer be so ineffecitve in the final third" Flynn (over 2200 mins). Tip of the hat to Billy "one of the best finishers I've ever work with" Mckay, who didn't manage a single league goal in his 1694 minutes on the pitch. Edited February 8, 2017 by josh_latics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Exactly. It was obvious from early in the game that we were set up for a point. In a way Sheridan was at fault because of his defensive mindset which saw many on the pitch unwilling to take a chance. Disappointed with the approach, gutted with the way we lost it at the death. Sheridan quoted in therarelywrong as saying: "I know we have a workmanlike side and we are hard to break down. But I want us to be adventurous and more positive attacking-wise and believe that we can cause teams problems. It is something I have to try to get into the team." So maybe I was a tad harsh on JS in my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Winchester was our best player by far Thanks for putting that together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Clarke - 3 goals - 900 mins pg Erwin - 2 - 722 mins pg Law - 2 - 692 mins pg Ladapo - 2 - 514 mins pg (although his Shrews record is 3 goals at 139 mins, the :censored:er) The rest have one goal each, and range from the clinical Winchester (388 mins), to the "how can a professional footballer be so ineffecitve in the final third" Flynn (over 2200 mins). Tip of the hat to Billy "one of the best finishers I've ever work with" Mckay, who didn't manage a single league goal in his 1694 minutes on the pitch. It's forlorn reading for the rest of the season. By the way, what has Ngoo done wrong to not get a look in? at 6ft 6ins you'd think there was a few goals in him if persisted with. Ngoo's goal ratio at Hearts was 1.411. Edited February 8, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 It's forlorn reading for the rest of the season. By the way, what has Ngoo done wrong to not get a look in? at 6ft 6ins you'd think there was a few goals in him if persisted with. Going off that theory I will make myself available as I'm 6ft 7 I must have a shed load of goals in me then. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Going off that theory I will make myself available as I'm 6ft 7 I must have a shed load of goals in me then. ! But he's a professional footballer, if you are I'd sign you up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The rest have one goal each, and range from the clinical Winchester (388 mins), to the "how can a professional footballer be so ineffecitve in the final third" Flynn (over 2200 mins). Flynn gets into the final third??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Flynn gets into the final third??? He did against Wigan, but must have been told never to do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 But he's a professional footballer, if you are I'd sign you upHaha I'm also quite a bit heavier I'd imagine so probs nota great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Haha I'm also quite a bit heavier I'd imagine so probs nota great idea If all the extra weight is round your arse you can play centre back but you have to have a scouse accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Haha I'm also quite a bit heavier I'd imagine so probs nota great idea Could you score goals in the Scottish Premier league? If so you are a cert in the next transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The extra weight is pretty much everywhere since having kids smoker. And BP it's harder to not score in Scotland isn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 But he's a professional footballer, if you are I'd sign you upHe'd be a professional footballer if we signed him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 He'd be a professional footballer if we signed him upHaha brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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