HarryBosch Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) On 2017-5-19 at 11:15 AM, 24hoursfromtulsehill said: Your piss boiling isn't really about that though, is it? Your piss is boiling because the right wing press have told you for decades that someone over there has something that people over here might quite like. You won't lift a finger to help people to get that thing they want...but you're extremely energetic about getting it taken away from the people who have it. No, good luck to anyone who has one - I'd love one. The piss boiling comes when they moan about them. I've had clients come out of them because unions have told them they're shit (they're back in now). That makes my piss boil too. Edited May 20, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 On 2017-5-19 at 8:29 AM, rosa said: Weirdly, the party that's been in power for 7 years appears to agree with them. Fuck, what are the Greens saying about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) On 2017-5-18 at 11:27 PM, mikeroyboy said: The NHS remit is unrecognisable from its inception in 1947. It is being abused by health tourists, medical suppliers, medical agencies and payoffs and re employment of senior management. That's always been the case to an extent. The "problem" is we now have the highest standard of living we've ever had and many of us are eating and drinking ourselves ill.. Then people are hanging on for 10, 20, 30 years with ill health & conditions that would have killed them pretty quickly just 15 to 20 years ago. And, as a result, they're constantly at the doctors or hospital. Even so, for the 5th biggest employer in the world to be providing such a poor service is criminal. Literally in all likelihood. Edited May 20, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Would the 4 largest employers be profit making with a definitive product to sell? NHS budget at its inception in 1948, £437 Millions. NHS budget 2015/16 £116 Billions. The NHS is indeed massive and taken for granted by us all. It is also probably unmanageable by any form of political party. We should all live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: It is also probably unmanageable by any form of political party. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 There are still millions of people who haven't registered to vote. The deadline is midnight on Monday 22nd May. https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzell54 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, HarryBosch said: Even so, for the 5th biggest employer in the world to be providing such a poor service is criminal. Literally in all likelihood. And apart from bull-shit statistics from the media: your evidence is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, frizzell54 said: And apart from bull-shit statistics from the media: your evidence is? Evidence of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Diego_Sideburns said: There are still millions of people who haven't registered to vote. The deadline is midnight on Monday 22nd May. https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote There have always, in modern times, been millions of people content to go with the flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 hours ago, HarryBosch said: 'Even so, for the 5th biggest employer in the world to be providing such a poor service is criminal. Literally in all likelihood'. Worlds top 4 employers: (1) USA State Department of Defence 3.2 million (2) Peoples Liberation Army of China, 2.3 million (3) Walmart, 2.3 million (4) McDonalds 1.9 million No wonder you're a little shy of answering my question. I'll chance my arm at 3 more: who are you really comparing our NHS with? Are the top four above clear of criminals? Would anyone expect an organisation with 1.7 million employees to be totally free of criminal acts? I would love to debate your stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Diego_Sideburns said: There are still millions of people who haven't registered to vote. The deadline is midnight on Monday 22nd May. https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote 2 million have registered. Havent seen any recent info but I would hope that the lead in the polls of the lady in flat shoes is starting to be reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: 2 million have registered. Havent seen any recent info but I would hope that the lead in the polls of the lady in flat shoes is starting to be reduced. There is always the chance that some of them have registered to vote for parties other than Labour of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, ChaddySmoker said: 2 million have registered. Havent seen any recent info but I would hope that the lead in the polls of the lady in flat shoes is starting to be reduced. 2 million is 4% of the electorate......of the 4% 53% are first time voters. Of the 1.1 million first voters who are savvy enough to register how many do you think support who....straws and clutching springs to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, leeslover said: There is always the chance that some of them have registered to vote for parties other than Labour of course A large proportion will be younger voters (and some of them might have even thought that Winnie was a decent footballer too.) Edited May 20, 2017 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magister said: 2 million is 4% of the electorate......of the 4% 53% are first time voters. Of the 1.1 million first voters who are savvy enough to register how many do you think support who....straws and clutching springs to mind Can I just say that seeing the right wing provide some specific numbers is a bleeding marvellous thing. (It might be 2M pensioners with houses worth over £100K) Edited May 20, 2017 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 On 2017-5-19 at 4:54 PM, Magister said: How much does the catering assistant working in Weatherspoons in the South East of England earn? I know how much they are on, which is why I am making the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 hours ago, ChaddySmoker said: Can I just say that seeing the right wing provide some specific numbers is a bleeding marvellous thing. (It might be 2M pensioners with houses worth over £100K) It certainly makes a change from Ms Abbotts attempts at providing figures..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 hours ago, singe said: I know how much they are on, which is why I am making the point. So the private sector is a better fairer employer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Magister said: It certainly makes a change from Ms Abbotts attempts at providing figures..... Oooh I see that the polls are changing. Is it squeeky bum time yet, Attila? I see that your grey boring leader is not looking so good these days: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Ah yes, squeaky bum time. The silent majority who take the trouble to get off their backsides, alone in a polling booth with a stubby black pencil. Who are they, what are they thinking, what will they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 50 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Oooh I see that the polls are changing. Is it squeeky bum time yet, Attila? I see that your grey boring leader is not looking so good these days: Putting aside our point scoring comments Chaddy I am really interested in the political strategy of portraying as the bogeyman Farage who arguably won 52% of the vote last June. The bloke is a dislike able but what is the political strategy behind threatening the electorate with the choice they made 11 months ago and which is going to happen...strange one. Surely it just strengthens May's message of her being the one to stand up to Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, mikeroyboy said: Worlds top 4 employers: (1) USA State Department of Defence 3.2 million (2) Peoples Liberation Army of China, 2.3 million (3) Walmart, 2.3 million (4) McDonalds 1.9 million No wonder you're a little shy of answering my question. I'll chance my arm at 3 more: who are you really comparing our NHS with? Are the top four above clear of criminals? Would anyone expect an organisation with 1.7 million employees to be totally free of criminal acts? I would love to debate your stance. You've lost me.... What have you decided my "stance" is? Edited May 21, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Magister said: Putting aside our point scoring comments Chaddy I am really interested in the political strategy of portraying as the bogeyman Farage who arguably won 52% of the vote last June. The bloke is a dislike able but what is the political strategy behind threatening the electorate with the choice they made 11 months ago and which is going to happen...strange one. Surely it just strengthens May's message of her being the one to stand up to Europe? I actually quite like Nigel Farage strangely enough as he has some personality but most people dont. Its a very witty billboard as they do look spookily alike. This election is not about Brexit anymore, which suits us after that Tory own goal of a manifesto. (uncosted) The more right wing that Theresa Mightnot can be portrayed the better-it doesnt have to stand up to scrutiny. We are using the Daily Mail tactics-just spout it on a daily basis! After her Triple whammy on pensioners (actually I do know that it is not) now is the time to hammer home the message. Its all about Momentum http://www.peoplesmomentum.com/ Edited May 21, 2017 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It's about time there was a mention of football and music in this Election campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Diego_Sideburns said: It's about time there was a mention of football and music in this Election campaign! I'd be fascinated to hear what the thought process was behind him dressing the smartest he's ever dressed to speak to a pissed up, drugged up Libertines crowd at a football ground in Birkenhead....? Edited May 21, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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