BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, frizzell54 said: So no incoming transfers unless someone is off-loaded. Out of contract players can be signed I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: He suggested the embargo was 3 weeks ago. Considering we only recently signed the Belgian kid, that tells me we are no longer under said embargo. He was a free agent so I guess exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Out of contract players can be signed I imagine. Unless we pay them £0. It's not contractual position but us spending greater than our cap. The Belgian pushed us further above hence why we've had the letter rapping our knuckles Edited August 23, 2017 by Midsblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Unless we pay them £0. It's not contractual position but us spending greater than our cap. The Belgian pushed us further above hence why we've had the letter rapping our knuckles So how can we sign Placide then? he would want decent money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, BP1960 said: So how can we sign Placide then? he would want decent money. Depend the terms and who's paying him and how. Also him and Belgian could be why the letters have materialised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Midsblue said: Depend the terms and who's paying him and how. Also him and Belgian could be why the letters have materialised. Who else can pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Think you can sign players under an embargo as long as they're free. Bolton are still under embargo and were under it all last year but still signed players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Boys in Blue said: Think you can sign players under an embargo as long as they're free. Bolton are still under embargo and were under it all last year but still signed players. That's true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 After all the gloom of recent years we should be quite uplifted with that interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Looking forward to Oldham wakes on Saturday going by yelloways hows everyone else getting there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 You can sign freebies but the EFL can cease any signing if your salary cap is breached and we're at risk of going bust. It's the salary as a factor as it's directly linked between income and expenditure to maintain running of the club. That said, there are ways around anyway. On book and off book transactions. Illegal but it definitely happens. How can some of our fellow clubs at our level operate when clearly the expected weekly salary far exceeds their income levels?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, BP1960 said: He was a free agent so I guess exempt. We were under an embargo because of our wage bill, so I'd imagine any incomings would be blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I anticipate an influx in African / French players. If we can bring in the next Makelele, Viera or Koure to police the midfield then happy days. A Yeboah or Lua Lua up front even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, sjk2008 said: We were under an embargo because of our wage bill, so I'd imagine any incomings would be blocked. Can you prevent someone from taking employment though, in effect leaving them jobless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Midsblue said: I anticipate an influx in African / French players. If we can bring in the next Makelele, Viera or Koure to police the midfield then happy days. A Yeboah or Lua Lua up front even better Why have Lua Lua when you can have Drogba... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, dec666 said: I’d have to disagree, it’s slightly worrying that the dross we’ve currently got turning out for us has seen us in an embargo for overspending... Or even more worrying that we're bringing so little money in that this lot's wages are enough to have had us embargoed.... Edited August 23, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: We sold everything off for a pittance damaging our ability to compete budget wise, makes you wonder how Bury, Fleetwood and Northampton to name but three are managing it though on crowds smaller than ours. It's not just gate receipts is it? Sponsorship, corporate etc.. too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Or even more worrying that we're bringing so little money in that this lot's wages are enough to have had us embargoed.... I'm trying to get my head around that bit...looking at the the stock /players we have compared to bigger squads/club around us and to say we need another 5/6 more players too? what are we paying these buggers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's not just gate receipts is it? Sponsorship, corporate etc.. too? So if the Arabian sponsors us for millions rather than buys that counts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's not just gate receipts is it? Sponsorship, corporate etc.. too? So Fleetwood are paying out fees and wages we can't compete with off the back of crowds of less than 3000? Are we that far behind on the corporate/sponsorship side? Our ground busting deal with SD was to elevate us to the next level financially wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: So Fleetwood are paying out fees and wages we can't compete with off the back of crowds of less than 3000? Are we that far behind on the corporate/sponsorship side? Our ground busting deal with SD was to elevate us to the next level financially wasn't it? Sponsorship is always the loop hole for owners with cash...etihad sponsoring city the example Edited August 23, 2017 by Blue_Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Midsblue said: FFS this is a honest interview reaffirming what most of us know but some on here still dispute that or churn conspiracy theory. Fact is our gates are low and commercial activity is limited to local interest. Therefore our income, to which we can generate a % for player purchases, is equally limited. Corney has increased that % so the EFL is warning us we can't spend above that % cap so either we reduce our spending or increase our income. We're not an attractive club to boost gates or increase commercial income other than local so outside investment is needed, which SC has continually been chasing. Also he's backed managers who has signed ineffective players that we currently cannot shift so therefore can't release back funds to add or replace. The guy wants to sell the club and I believe him that he's making sure whoever buys or invests can take the club forward as opposed to getting the best price. I'm as frustrated as everyone - Corney more than most - that we haven't succeeded on the pitch. This interview gives the faintest glimmer that the investment needed is closer than before. Dubai investment / takeover? Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 47 minutes ago, BP1960 said: So if the Arabian sponsors us for millions rather than buys that counts? Etihad stadium is a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Sounds to me like we'll end up as a pound shop Wolves with the Brassbank crew remaining on the scene. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 What surprised me most is that even with 95% of this messageboard having a 'reliable source' nobody knew anything about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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