Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It's pretty obvious where the overseas players are recruited via but who makes the decisions on the domestics? A few players have had trials and been signed, fair enough, but who identified and decided to go for Woods, Wilson, Mills etc.? It obviously wasn't the last head coach and I struggle to imagine that Mo has any great knowledge in that area so who does make the calls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's pretty obvious where the overseas players are recruited via but who makes the decisions on the domestics? A few players have had trials and been signed, fair enough, but who identified and decided to go for Woods, Wilson, Mills etc.? It obviously wasn't the last head coach and I struggle to imagine that Mo has any great knowledge in that area so who does make the calls? In relation to Wilson and Mills, Barry Owen was in charge of signing these with his "invaluable experience and knowledge of the lower leagues and dealings with agents" That was the exact quote told to me by a member of the board at the Fans Forum during the interval. This was not from Barry Owen himself by the way haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, unsworthlatic said: In relation to Wilson and Mills, Barry Owen was in charge of signing these with his "invaluable experience and knowledge of the lower leagues and dealings with agents" Translation: They were available, within our budget and had good games against us last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, unsworthlatic said: In relation to Wilson and Mills, Barry Owen was in charge of signing these with his "invaluable experience and knowledge of the lower leagues and dealings with agents" That was the exact quote told to me by a member of the board at the Fans Forum during the interval. This was not from Barry Owen himself by the way haha A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing A little knowledge is a dangerous thing We’re fucked, aren’t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Translation: They were available, within our budget and had good games against us last season. Absolutely bloody terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, unsworthlatic said: In relation to Wilson and Mills, Barry Owen was in charge of signing these with his "invaluable experience and knowledge of the lower leagues and dealings with agents" That was the exact quote told to me by a member of the board at the Fans Forum during the interval. This was not from Barry Owen himself by the way haha There are fucking huge problems at our club but this mans influence shouldn't be ignored, bloke probably doesn't know his head from his arse when judging a player yet seemingly he is able to influence domestic signings, problem we've got is the bloke judging our international imports is even fucking worse, add it all together in a pot and it's a recipe for disaster. What will it take for us to change tack or are we just going to bat on under these fools influence until we are relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: There are fucking huge problems at our club but this mans influence shouldn't be ignored, bloke probably doesn't know his head from his arse when judging a player yet seemingly he is able to influence domestic signings, problem we've got is the bloke judging our international imports is even fucking worse, add it all together in a pot and it's a recipe for disaster. What will it take for us to change tack or are we just going to bat on under these fools influence until we are relegated? Literally the only truly positive aspect of the club I can genuinely think of is the outstanding work of the Community Trust. Happy to be corrected on anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, singe said: Literally the only truly positive aspect of the club I can genuinely think of is the outstanding work of the Community Trust. Happy to be corrected on anything else. Cannot disagree at all, majority of the valued members of staff behind the scenes have also jumped before they were pushed which speaks volumes. Left with deadwood on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, yarddog73 said: Cannot disagree at all, majority of the valued members of staff behind the scenes have also jumped before they were pushed which speaks volumes. Left with deadwood on and off the pitch. I should have added the groundstaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The issue you have when multiple people influence signings is that they rarely tend to suit one style of play. You end up with a load of players that you don't need or that don't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, doctor evil said: The issue you have when multiple people influence signings is that they rarely tend to suit one style of play. You end up with a load of players that you don't need or that don't fit. Wilson appears to be the perfect example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, doctor evil said: The issue you have when multiple people influence signings is that they rarely tend to suit one style of play. You end up with a load of players that you don't need or that don't fit. And of course, appointing a half competent Sporting Director is supposed to prevent that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Scouts often often have to obey instructions. In one case I was told by a well known manager ..look only for those big and quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: Translation: They were available, within our budget and had good games against us last season. they must of been pulling trees up at the time ti catch his eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, peanuts said: they must of been pulling trees up at the time ti catch his eye There must have been a seed of doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, doctor evil said: The issue you have when multiple people influence signings is that they rarely tend to suit one style of play. You end up with a load of players that you don't need or that don't fit. Eg the deadline day signing of Morais and Smith. Individually, both good players. However when we already had Branger, Nepo, Eagles, Fage, Kokos to play wide, how did they fit into an overall recruitment strategy? To answer my own question - we don't have a recruitment strategy which is one of the main reasons we're in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Eg the deadline day signing of Morais and Smith. Individually, both good players. However when we already had Branger, Nepo, Eagles, Fage, Kokos to play wide, how did they fit into an overall recruitment strategy? To answer my own question - we don't have a recruitment strategy which is one of the main reasons we're in this mess. The nodding dogs told us in the summer this kind of model was commonplace. I guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, deyres42 said: The nodding dogs told us in the summer this kind of model was commonplace. I guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. Oh yes....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, BP1960 said: There must have been a seed of doubt? You literally pulled up a tree when you gave us the gift of Cameron Burgess BP !! In fact I reckon a Dahlia would have been more comfortable on the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: You literally pulled up a tree when you gave us the gift of Cameron Burgess BP !! In fact I reckon a Dahlia would have been more comfortable on the ball Still playing with a higher club in this division though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, deyres42 said: The nodding dogs told us in the summer this kind of model was commonplace. I guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. I think the arrangement isn't at all uncommon but those who make it work generally have someone competent in the role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, BP1960 said: Still playing with a higher club in this division though. So he’s regressed then ? Nice spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I think the arrangement isn't at all uncommon but those who make it work generally have someone competent in the role And we have 2 people in the role, neither with any expertise to bring to it, seemingly not coordinating with either each other or whichever poor sap happens to be head coach at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: So he’s regressed then ? Nice spot Strange logic when they are a better club than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, nzlatic said: And we have 2 people in the role, neither with any expertise to bring to it, seemingly not coordinating with either each other or whichever poor sap happens to be head coach at the time Wishful thinking but wonder if there is a case for such a role to require a licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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