BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Despite the late goal this manager has to go, he just won't change his beloved non working 3 centre backs, forcing Mcgahey to cover wide left is plain nonsensical. The biggest threat up front was Piergianni late on. Hope was awful, how many times have we said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveecky Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: One goal doesn’t polish a turd - DKD does it once every few weeks this side are going down My thoughts exactly, Performance went worse as the match went on and scoring a wordly changes nothing. Punts forward to players who can't get on the end of them and none of the units work well. Couto has been forced to play too many games and he is constantly out of position. Pidge is the only left footer of the centre backs but they would rather play McGahey there. Poor for poor one on one finishes Exeter could have been out of sight. Bambi started well but not much comes of it. A squad without redemption, especially in the final 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, daniel said: He wants out, but wants the pay off surely? Very bizarre behaviour. As if there'll be a payoff or he would expect one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I've not watched the game but the stats show that we had more possession and more shots than Exeter. Was it a genuine shocking performance or was it just a case of we didn't take chances and gave away soft goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Thoroughly miserable experience that. Dreadful performance, dreadful tactics, and some absolute twats in the away end. I can't stand the owners, but there's absolutely no excuse for racism. Disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: I've not watched the game but the stats show that we had more possession and more shots than Exeter. Was it a genuine shocking performance or was it just a case of we didn't take chances and gave away soft goals. More possession but no penetration with everything breaking down when it was fired toward Hope, Exater weren't much better but much stronger physically, that's what's the difference in most matches to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: I've not watched the game but the stats show that we had more possession and more shots than Exeter. Was it a genuine shocking performance or was it just a case of we didn't take chances and gave away soft goals. The problem is we don't have a striker. Missed three good chances early on, but then conceded with their first chance and heads dropped. We actually played alright, but we play badly? We lose. Play well? We lose also...but this is the best you'll get out of this squad. We're fucked, but none of it's the managers doing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeP said: The problem is we don't have a striker. Missed three good chances early on, but then conceded with their first chance and heads dropped. We actually played alright, but we play badly? We lose. Play well? We lose also...but this is the best you'll get out of this squad. We're fucked, but none of it's the managers doing.. Come on. It's not all down to him. But come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Come on. It's not all down to him. But come on. How would you do it better with what he's got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, JoeP said: The problem is we don't have a striker. Missed three good chances early on, but then conceded with their first chance and heads dropped. We actually played alright, but we play badly? We lose. Play well? We lose also...but this is the best you'll get out of this squad. We're fucked, but none of it's the managers doing.. It's all his doing we are joint bottom of the league. His tactics are abysmal yet he never changes them or his favourite players no matter how poor they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, JoeP said: How would you do it better with what's he's got? I know I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, BP1960 said: I know I would. Go on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: I've not watched the game but the stats show that we had more possession and more shots than Exeter. Was it a genuine shocking performance or was it just a case of we didn't take chances and gave away soft goals. Where to start? The first fifteen minutes saw us on top creating two good chances but not taking either. Bahamboula was on his game and it augured well. Then the inevitable happened - failing to stop the cross from the right and Piergianni slipping at the vital moment to allow Jay an easy finish. From that point onwards we were outthought, outmuscled and outfought. We spent long periods of the game failing to win the ball and, when we did, failing to keep the ball. There were, once again, too many players not playing well - Hope and DKD the main culprits. The second goal was comical with the ball bouncing off a retreating Couto into the path of Brown who could not miss. Exeter squandered two other good chances to double their lead. And then a wonder strike from Bowden gave us a chance which we failed to capitalise on. The free kick for the foul on Piergianni just outside the ‘D’ was woefully wasted. Bringing on Stobbs, Hopcutt and Dearnley had little impact. Irrespective of the manager’s failings the players once again let themselves down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, JoeP said: How would you do it better with what he's got? Not play Hallam Hope as a lone striker. Not keep 3 centre halves on when we're 2 down. Not take our two best attacking players off when we're two down. Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeP said: Go on.. If you read my posts I would have signed signed strong fit players especially up front and in midfield, the reason we are losing is we are too lightweight and bullied in most games Then it would be 4 at the back not the ridiculous lop sided 3 centre back and 2 deep midfielders tactic Curle insists on playing. The players don't look comfortable with his formation, even when he had his best players available. He had the chance to sign the type of players required and failed to do so, putting his faith in Hope who he keeps telling us will score goals. Bahamboula is a wide man and wasted by Curle. He won't change so it's ironic he says if the players won't change he will change them. The table does not lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Thoroughly miserable experience that. Dreadful performance, dreadful tactics, and some absolute twats in the away end. I can't stand the owners, but there's absolutely no excuse for racism. Disgusting What was actually being said/chanted/shouted here because this needs stamping out we want shot of the owners but if racist chanting persists the media will get hold of this and we will lose any goodwill that we can get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Not play Hallam Hope as a lone striker. Not keep 3 centre halves on when we're 2 down. Not take our two best attacking players off when we're two down. Etc He only has one fit striker. We have no "best" option in any position. He should have stuck with the team that are losing 2-0?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: What was actually being said/chanted/shouted here because this needs stamping out we want shot of the owners but if racist chanting persists the media will get hold of this and we will lose any goodwill that we can get? Chants about the owners being goat shaggers and paedos. Just abhorrent, and completely takes away from what we're trying to achieve by chanting for him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, BP1960 said: If you read my posts I would have signed signed strong fit players especially up front and in midfield, the reason we are losing is we are too lightweight and bullied in most games Then it would be 4 at the back not the ridiculous lop sided 3 centre back and 2 deep midfielders tactic Curle insists on playing. The players don't look comfortable with his formation, even when he had his best players available. He had the chance to sign the type of players required and failed to do so, putting his faith in Hope who he keeps telling us will score goals. Bahamboula is a wide man and wasted by Curle. He won't change so it's ironic he says if the players won't change he will change them. The table does not lie. Didn't see too many dissenting voices when Hope signed. Would he have signed some of the ones we ended up without the budget restrictions? Doubtful. Tactically we knew what we were getting with Curle, his formation preference and style of play was widely known to anyone with a passing interest in lower league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, BP1960 said: If you read my posts I would have signed signed strong fit players especially up front and in midfield, the reason we are losing is we are too lightweight and bullied in most games Then it would be 4 at the back not the ridiculous lop sided 3 centre back and 2 deep midfielders tactic Curle insists on playing. The players don't look comfortable with his formation, even when he had his best players available. He had the chance to sign the type of players required and failed to do so, putting his faith in Hope who he keeps telling us will score goals. Bahamboula is a wide man and wasted by Curle. He won't change so it's ironic he says if the players won't change he will change them. The table does not lie. Agree with the last line, but changing the manager isn't going to solve that. Pool of players we can sign is limited by our funds and reputation. The players don't look comfortable because they're not good enough. I'll bow to your superior knowledge on Bam but while entertaining his end product 9 times out of 10 is pretty woeful. He scores a few. Like the ball to much to be a provider.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Chants about the owners being goat shaggers and paedos. Just abhorrent, and completely takes away from what we're trying to achieve by chanting for him out. That doesn't sound the least bit racist to me. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, redlion said: That doesn't sound the least bit racist to me. Please explain. Yeah, I remember Corney having the same kind of chants directed at him. Of course it's fucking racist. It's the same tropes about middle Eastern folk as then shagging camels etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig barnes Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 The players don't look comfortable because they're not, playing them out of position & playing a player who does score goals , actually he does nothing. Yet we had a player who scored 2 goals on Tuesday & had to sit his arse on the subs bench , why ? If he's scoring goals it surely warrants to be in line- up. Hope was supposedly a godsend according to Curle that is why he won't drop him , he can't admit when he's wrong . He needs to go , his record speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, JoeP said: Agree with the last line, but changing the manager isn't going to solve that. Pool of players we can sign is limited by our funds and reputation. The players don't look comfortable because they're not good enough. I'll bow to your superior knowledge on Bam but while entertaining his end product 9 times out of 10 is pretty woeful. He scores a few. Like the ball to much to be a provider.. Bahamboula looks fed up of playing for Curle. Curle keeps saying it will change when his best players come back, but it was as bad when they were available. AL has lost interest so won't sack him, he will carry on regardless with tactics not even the players look like they are comfortable with. He will have a transfer window to put it right, we will see then if he signs the hold up centre forward he should have signed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Craig barnes said: The players don't look comfortable because they're not, playing them out of position & playing a player who does score goals , actually he does nothing. Yet we had a player who scored 2 goals on Tuesday & had to sit his arse on the subs bench , why ? If he's scoring goals it surely warrants to be in line- up. Hope was supposedly a godsend according to Curle that is why he won't drop him , he can't admit when he's wrong . He needs to go , his record speaks for itself Because Dearnley is made of glass and he can't play 2 games a week he will just breakdown and get injured and be out for months. I don't remember him saying Hope was a godsend do you want to show me where he's said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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