Chaddyexile84 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, redlion said: Shame about Stobbs. Shez obviously thought there was a player there as he kept picking him and also bringing him on as sub. the only shame about Stobbs is that we are still paying him makes Joe Colbeck look like Rick Holden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, Chaddyexile84 said: the only shame about Stobbs is that we are still paying him makes Joe Colbeck look like Rick Holden He's still the best crosser of the ball in the club. Would be ideal with our big lads up front. Can't be any worse than Tollett when the opposition have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Shrek said: He's still the best crosser of the ball in the club. Would be ideal with our big lads up front. Can't be any worse than Tollett when the opposition have the ball. the fact all his crosses end up in the stand says a lot about our other crossers he should never step foot on a football pitch again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: the fact all his crosses end up in the stand says a lot about our other crossers he should never step foot on a football pitch again Well thanks for leaving us all in no doubt about Stobbs. Be par for the course though if he popped up at Rochdale next season (for instance) and scored a hat trick against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: the fact all his crosses end up in the stand says a lot about our other crossers he should never step foot on a football pitch again He was crossing to the Bahambula and DKD. Different game with Nutall, Reid and Fondop. We need a winger, or full back, who can put in a good delivery consistently from out wide. Couto is the only other one who might have that in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Shrek said: He was crossing to the Bahambula and DKD. Different game with Nutall, Reid and Fondop. We need a winger, or full back, who can put in a good delivery consistently from out wide. Couto is the only other one who might have that in his game. If the crosses end up in the stand I'm not sure who's in the middle is crucial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: If the crosses end up in the stand I'm not sure who's in the middle is crucial They didn't all end up there. Just more over dramatisation. We definitely need someone with good delivery as we have the lads up front who'd thrive on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shrek said: They didn't all end up there. Just more over dramatisation. We definitely need someone with good delivery as we have the lads up front who'd thrive on it. He had the ability to put over a decent cross, which he did do occasionally. Just not anywhere near often enough to make him effective. I don't think he's the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, nzlatic said: He had the ability to put over a decent cross, which he did do occasionally. Just not anywhere near often enough to make him effective. I don't think he's the answer. He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shrek said: He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. Maybe the answer is to not play 442? That would be my answer anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Maybe Green in the answer ??? Showed a bit of promise in Saturday's cameo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Maybe the answer is to not play 442? That would be my answer anyway! I think that's what he'll do as he didn't want to play it early on. Tollet Nutall Reid Shilton Rooney Sheron That could be a solution but I still worry we won't have enough quality delivery. On shite pitches you at times need to cross it rather than dribble / slot it through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shrek said: I think that's what he'll do as he didn't want to play it early on. Tollet Nutall Reid Shilton Rooney Sheron That could be a solution but I still worry we won't have enough quality delivery. On shite pitches you at times need to cross it rather than dribble / slot it through That would be my pick. Wide delivery would then come from attacking full backs or the central players getting into wide positions. So I think we still need a Kitching equivalent on the right. I like Will Sutton as a defender and it's great that he's in the team and playing a part in the good results, but I don't think he offers enough threat going forward to be the long term solution on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Shrek said: He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. One game - nice one got “highlights” of his other 39 appearances by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, Shrek said: He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. The fact one cross against Mansfield stands out so much illustrates how rare a decent cross from him was. A very poor player, and him getting a new deal is more evidence that Sheridan was losing the plot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Shrek said: He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. Yarney would do well at right back with Sutton moved to cente back, but doubt if DU will change anything at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: One game - nice one got “highlights” of his other 39 appearances by any chance? The suggestion was all his crosses were shite. Clearly not. Google / YouTube is a great resource if you're interested in checking things out before posting. Knocking balls into the box for DKD and Bahambula is a far trickier job than it is for Fondop and Nutall. Stobbs or someone else, it's a weapon we need to use more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Shrek said: The suggestion was all his crosses were shite. Clearly not. Google / YouTube is a great resource if you're interested in checking things out before posting. Knocking balls into the box for DKD and Bahambula is a far trickier job than it is for Fondop and Nutall. Stobbs or someone else, it's a weapon we need to use more. It's not really, you just need to knock it in low and hard instead of lofting it to a Duncan Ferguson who's stood on Tony Hatleley's shoulders. Stobbs could hit a decent cross in.......just not consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Stobbs played in Unsworth's first three league games in charge, don't think he been seen since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: It's not really, you just need to knock it in low and hard instead of lofting it to a Duncan Ferguson who's stood on Tony Hatleley's shoulders. Stobbs could hit a decent cross in.......just not consistently. I meant because DKD and Bahambula are both weak in the air and not centre forwards. Luke Beckett wasn't big but deadly in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Shrek said: I meant because DKD and Bahambula are both weak in the air and not centre forwards. Luke Beckett wasn't big but deadly in the box. That fact you would play Stobbs over Tollitt tells me you are clueless Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: That fact you would play Stobbs over Tollitt tells me you are clueless Pete. Correct although I feel Tollitt struggles position wise in the teams that Unsworth puts out, you'd almost have to give him a free role but I'm not sure he deserves that, it's a tough one given his eye for goal and he does play very well in spells particularly running at teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Shrek said: He's probably not as his head seemed to have gone towards the end of last season (bit like J Clarke this season) but we aren't creating anything so we need someone who can deliver from out wide. Be that Stobbs, Couto or someone else. At the moment we have little threat from wide and don't seem to have the right link up to create through the middle. We're playing 442 without anyone who is an out and out winger. Tollet can't play wide right, Chapman won't provide much for Nutall etc, Rooney isn't a winger. Given our weakness on the right not sure why he has been dismissed so readily. We got this massive squad, why not use it? I'll just add this to show they didn't all end up in the Chaddy End. Interestingly the only Stobbs cross shown was the corner, a set piece. The second half lowlights show plenty of evidence of Stobbs running about on the edge of the chasing shadows including before one of the goals. These highlights don’t help to prove Stobbs is worth a place in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: That fact you would play Stobbs over Tollitt tells me you are clueless Pete. No idea who Pete is. Tollitt does not have the ability to cross the ball and has been very poor for a month or two now. He doesn't suit 442 as he's as weak as a kitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pidge said: Interestingly the only Stobbs cross shown was the corner, a set piece. The second half lowlights show plenty of evidence of Stobbs running about on the edge of the chasing shadows including before one of the goals. These highlights don’t help to prove Stobbs is worth a place in our squad. He's not the answer but he does have an attribute we could use. He's more use right wing than Chapman for example. He wants to two dogs in centre mid. The wide men need to create the chances. Rooney coming in from the left, Toillet isn't contributing much when out right. Maybe the new lad is here to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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