Senor_Coconut Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I can't agree with that. Trotman is at least as good in the air as Haining but is taller and more athletic. He is a lot faster and stronger, and his distribution is no worse. I'm struggling to think of one area of their game that Haining was ever better at. Trotman can even throw the ball further. Haining at that age was just as quick and athletic as Trotters, it was very rare that any of the big lump of a striker that play in this division got past Haining, but the hamstring and back injuries slowed him right down, he more than chipped in with a goal or two(6 goals in his first full season I think). Plus you could tell from the moment Haining replaced Clint Hill that he was going to become the Oldham captain at a very young age, not sure you can say the same for Trotters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 trottman has more potential than haining as he has the hunger generated by rejection and believing your carreer was over Against the hunger Haining showed moving from his home in Scotland after being rejected by his boyhood club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 After refusing to sell Porter last Jan and then being bite on the arse when he moved to Scotland ......... not sure any genuie offers would be refused again by TTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Haining at that age was just as quick and athletic as Trotters, it was very rare that any of the big lump of a striker that play in this division got past Haining, but the hamstring and back injuries slowed him right down, he more than chipped in with a goal or two(6 goals in his first full season I think). Plus you could tell from the moment Haining replaced Clint Hill that he was going to become the Oldham captain at a very young age, not sure you can say the same for Trotters. i have to sgree with senor, when hainning cam into to the team he was a total athlete and a leader on the park , he never lived up to his potential, he was getting massive rave reviews when he came into the side and carried on for a few seasons, where is was noe to motovation or injuries all that potential dispersed. trotman is very good and will get better, but he is very similar to hainning in a lot of ways, lets hope he lives up to the hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think people are going very ott on Trotters, good prospect but Will Haining was a better player at his age and we all thought he would go on to become a Premiership player. £500k plus a sell on would be very good business if we could invest the majority into the transfer market, but given the speed we seem to be working at now it will be next summer before anything is spent. Totally agree with coco's comments about trotment.....but dont suggest the club are moving slowly....you dont know whats going on behind the scenes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 After refusing to sell Porter last Jan and then being bite on the arse when he moved to Scotland ......... not sure any genuie offers would be refused again by TTA I don't think we can spend the rest of time living in dread of players going off to play for Dunfermline Paperboys or some such, it's not as if every young player is going to do a Porter. In any case isn't Trotman under contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) I don't think we can spend the rest of time living in dread of players going off to play for Dunfermline Paperboys or some such, it's not as if every young player is going to do a Porter. In any case isn't Trotman under contract? I agree with Lesslover but a £500k offer for a player that cost us nothing is always going to be classed as good business.... Yeah you can keep them and hope we get promotion or there value goes up... But thats a big risk which was proved with the Porter situation.... Edited January 15, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I wouldn't see it as a lack of ambition by the club at all so long as most of the money received from the transfer was used to improve the squad. As for rather seeing Eardley sold, Eardley looks far more comfortable at right-back than Hazell is. As good as Hazell is, he's a centre-back, Eardley is a much better right-back than Hazell and I think we'd lose less in selling Trotman than we would selling Eardley. That said I hope we don't have to sell either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Am I right in thinking that Trottmans contract is up in the summer it was mentioned on here recently. If so has this little rumour been started by his agent in hope of getting him a better deal if you see where I'm coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oa_exile Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 In any case isn't Trotman under contract? Am I right in thinking that Trottmans contract is up in the summer it was mentioned on here recently. If so has this little rumour been started by his agent in hope of getting him a better deal if you see where I'm coming from? Yes his contract is up in the summer and yes it is that "Agent" time of year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) Am I right in thinking that Trottmans contract is up in the summer it was mentioned on here recently. If so has this little rumour been started by his agent in hope of getting him a better deal if you see where I'm coming from? Sure he had another year added recently? The risk with Porter was we got the bid knowing he was out of contract six months later should he reject our offer. Providing Trotman is under contract after summer, we still know he's ours. Not as risky providing we'd be willing to knock a bid back that is. Edited January 15, 2008 by RoytonBlueLad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 If we can't agree a new contract with Trotman before the end of January I would sell him to whoever is interested, we can't afford another Porter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Trotman will be signing by the end of the month, new 3 year contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Trotman for Prime Minister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonBlueLad Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Trotman for Prime Minister! Amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Is Trotman a Catholic? The Pope is getting on a bit and you have to think for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Real Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think he will be signing a new deal as we was the one who give him a second chance after being rejected by Burnley!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 The reason why Trotman took a while to get going with the first team was because of his lack of professionalism. I read previously (Chris Taylor interview in the matchday programme, I think) that both him and Chris Hall were the worst at the club for turning up to training late. I would guess that's also the reason why he was shown the door at Burnley. That said, he appears to have put that behind him now but I must say that £500k for a third division player who's made around 15 appearances does look like an offer that the club couldn't refuse though I personally hope he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oa_exile Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 From today's rarely wrong Chron - They must read OWTB Trotman is new transfer target by MICHAEL YARWOOD PROMISING defender Neal Trotman is the latest Athletic player to become a big-money target in the transfer window. A host of Championship clubs are monitoring Trotman and at least one – Plymouth Argyle – have already made an enquiry. Athletic want to keep their 20-year-old centre-half, who has risen from obscurity this season to become a regular in John Sheridan’s team. Trotman has shown strength and athleticism, and been a major threat on setpieces, since he was handed his chance in October. No bids have been made as yet, but Athletic are bracing themselves for offers before the window shuts in just over two weeks. Ironically, it was Plymouth who tried to raid Boundary Park last January with a move for striker Chris Porter. Trotman – who will be out of contract in the summer – is not the only Athletic player under scrutiny as other members of a young squad have attracted attention this season. Sheridan, however, insists he does not want to sell and is instead focusing on a recruitment drive. The club’s FA Cup run has helped Sheridan’s cause as Athletic have already made around £250,000 from knocking out Doncaster, Crewe and Premier League side Everton. They have a Boundary Park tie with Huddersfield to come next week and, although every player has his price, the financial burden has been eased. Having recently lost Neil Kilkenny and Ryan Bertrand at the end of their loan spells, Athletic are aiming to bring in at least one signing before the game at Yeovil Town on Saturday. They want a creative midfielder and left-sided defender to replace Kilkenny and Bertrand, plus a new striker. Meanwhile, Athletic’s reserves were held 1-1 at home by Shrewsbury yesterday. Trainee midfielder Nathan Kilcourse put them ahead before half-time with a fine strike from the edge of the box, but Shrewsbury’s Jake Ellis equalised with 11 minutes remaining. Goalkeeper Les Pogliacomi came through with flying colours as he stepped up his return from knee surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) A host of clubs Well show us the £££s then Nice healthy bidding war would be nice Edited January 15, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 From today's rarely wrong Chron - They must read OWTB Let's cut to the facts of the story: Trotman is new transfer target by MICHAEL YARWOOD A host of Championship clubs are monitoring Trotman and at least one – Plymouth Argyle – have already made an enquiry. Athletic want to keep their 20-year-old centre-half.... No bids have been made as yet.... Sheridan, however, insists he does not want to sell and is instead focusing on a recruitment drive. There you have it - he's not going anywhere - the story is pure unfounded speculation! Add to that Simon Corney's statement that there is money for new players provided the young players are given their chance, and the rarely wrong Chron's story is simply a means of creating uncertainty, to give the stay-at-homes another excuse for not starting to go to BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 lol....that sets the club stall out in my eyes.....were not selling....unless you make it worth our while.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 lol....that sets the club stall out in my eyes.....were not selling....unless you make it worth our while.... What leads you to say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 There's a few reasons I don't want to see Trotman go....the main one being he ain't a target of the booboys and that if he went, then the whingers would be saying how we were right to cash in, but boy, ain't his replacement a bag of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) What leads you to say that? The same thing as you....reading between the lines..... Shez hasnt said "we will not be selling"....he has said "we dont WANT to sell"..... big difference.... Edited January 15, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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