Forte_Baby Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Maybe LJ was trying to see if the captaincy and some positive words brought more out of his game. My view is "reduced budget" means replace Furman and Simpson with cheaper players. I think letting Bouzanis go is probably the right decision. He doesn't command the six yard box at corners and too many times I'm sat there thinking "I'm sure he could have done better there". Love his celebrations, but want more than that. Wonder if his discipliniary mishap with Philliskirk has anything to do with it? My thoughts about his departure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Pleased with the list of players retained and left. Only 1 I would've kept is Dan Taylor but he's had injuries and I can understand why we've let go of him. Deano leaving is more sad than disasterous. We had 2 decent keepers at the club with him and Cisak and I think Cisak's ability is better than Bouzanis'. However, it's a joy to see a player with such passion and commitment like Bouzy in a game with very few players like that. Simpson underperformed all season, too, on a high wage. Glad we've kept the kids and are attempting to keep the better players from last season. Progession is essential. I'd like to see Korey Smith again next season and trust LJ to bring in quality. Dan Taylor lacked physical presence whenever I've seen him and I'm not surprised he's been let go. Edited May 1, 2013 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Yeah, while I've nothing against the lad (and I hope he recovers swiftly and gets himself sorted with a new club soon) I was a little surprised by how rated he seemed to be by some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 There's a big gap on the "who's coming in" list but those decisions suggest that Lee Johnson's judgement is good. Hopefully his powers of persuasion match it when it comes to ongoing negotiations and bringing fresh blood in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2509 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm happy that we have kept the younger players but don't really see any of them being in the starting XI at the start of the season. Devastated with the loss of Bouzanis, really liked him as a keeper and liked him for the passion he had in the club. Think Cisak isn't as good as Bouzanis and is also a :censored:, :censored:e attitude and wanting to leave during the season. Hope he goes if Deano is going. Would of liked to have kept Dan Taylor to be honest but can understand why he wasnt kept. Keeping Brown is a bad decision as well, really awful even though some fans actually like him which I can't understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm happy that we have kept the younger players but don't really see any of them being in the starting XI at the start of the season. Devastated with the loss of Bouzanis, really liked him as a keeper and liked him for the passion he had in the club. Think Cisak isn't as good as Bouzanis and is also a :censored:, :censored:e attitude and wanting to leave during the season. Hope he goes if Deano is going. Would of liked to have kept Dan Taylor to be honest but can understand why he wasnt kept. Keeping Brown is a bad decision as well, really awful even though some fans actually like him which I can't understand why. I think LJ sees potential in Brown, he's quick and puts in some crisp tackling, next season could see him come on leaps and bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGortonsMatches Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Already signed up what beyond 2014 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm happy that we have kept the younger players but don't really see any of them being in the starting XI at the start of the season. Devastated with the loss of Bouzanis, really liked him as a keeper and liked him for the passion he had in the club. Think Cisak isn't as good as Bouzanis and is also a :censored:, :censored:e attitude and wanting to leave during the season. Hope he goes if Deano is going. Would of liked to have kept Dan Taylor to be honest but can understand why he wasnt kept. Keeping Brown is a bad decision as well, really awful even though some fans actually like him which I can't understand why. Bollocks, basically wanted first team football, no gripes with that. Is more than definitely a better keeper, at this level there isnt much a keeper can do as there is so many defensive mistakes leaving them helpless, but his cross claiming, reaction saves and especially his consistent distributions make him a better keeper. A very steady full back defensively, has improved going forward last quarter of the season, doesnt mind getting stuck in even though hes so slight. Very happy to keep him and Grounds at FB. 3 of the back 4 with an experienced ball player alongside Mvoto and I think thats a decent defensive unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Bollocks, basically wanted first team football, no gripes with that. Is more than definitely a better keeper, at this level there isnt much a keeper can do as there is so many defensive mistakes leaving them helpless, but his cross claiming, reaction saves and especially his consistent distributions make him a better keeper. A very steady full back defensively, has improved going forward last quarter of the season, doesnt mind getting stuck in even though hes so slight. Very happy to keep him and Grounds at FB. 3 of the back 4 with an experienced ball player alongside Mvoto and I think thats a decent defensive unit. If trialist Joey Jones is signed that would add composure to the defence too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hopefully we can keep JYM, Croft, Cisak and get a brucie bonus by finding some mug to give us some money for Smith !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hopefully we can keep JYM, Croft, Cisak and get a brucie bonus by finding some mug to give us some money for Smith !! We won't get cash for smith he's out of contract and 24 before the end of june Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoasis Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 ...forgot that!! Ah well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hmmm. About what I thought would be done by LJ; and just about what i would have done myself. I dont rate Connor Brown. At all. But - as back-up for both full-back positions: I guess I can see that. I'm very worried though if he is lining up as 1st choice RB next season. The Bouzy Vs Cisak one is a tad strange - in that if LJ rated Cisak more than Bouzy; surely he'd have played him? But - like a few; I think Cisak is the better 'Keeper. Now; after a fractured season including a loan away from the club; whether he signs his deal or not will remain to be seen. Hopefully JYM, Smith & Croft re-sign.....but if they dont; so be it. Good luck to Simmo, Hughes, Jacub, Bouzy & Taylor in getting fixed up at another club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 What is our hoped for first t4eam looking like at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hmmm. About what I thought would be done by LJ; and just about what i would have done myself. I dont rate Connor Brown. At all. But - as back-up for both full-back positions: I guess I can see that. I'm very worried though if he is lining up as 1st choice RB next season. The Bouzy Vs Cisak one is a tad strange - in that if LJ rated Cisak more than Bouzy; surely he'd have played him? But - like a few; I think Cisak is the better 'Keeper. Now; after a fractured season including a loan away from the club; whether he signs his deal or not will remain to be seen. Hopefully JYM, Smith & Croft re-sign.....but if they dont; so be it. Good luck to Simmo, Hughes, Jacub, Bouzy & Taylor in getting fixed up at another club. I think the released list in general shows LJ has some balls. Could you imagine Dickov cutting Simpson and Bouzanis loose? I don't think he would. Would offer them both nothing terms and drag out the whole process. I expect quick decisions. As another note, I wouldn't take for granted all the young players signing up just yet. They wont have been offered great terms. They could be tempted by a slightly better offer and the promise of football at a lower level a la Smalley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Whilst im suprised I think he has it right Not sure I would have given Winchester a deal or offer but imagine he is cheap I think this indicates the theory of Cisak may have been right regarding having to up payments if he had made more apperances as he has realeased our #1 but in talks with our #2 I actually think Cisak might turn us down, wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Heard Tarky has had his head turned too but as we've offered him a deal compo will be forthcoming. However I expect him to be told to stop being do :censored:ing stupid and to continue his development here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Heard Tarky has had his head turned too but as we've offered him a deal compo will be forthcoming. However I expect him to be told to stop being do :censored:ing stupid and to continue his development here... I like Tarky, but I wouldn't be too upset if he left in return for compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Heard Tarky has had his head turned too but as we've offered him a deal compo will be forthcoming. However I expect him to be told to stop being do :censored:ing stupid and to continue his development here... Getting any kind of compensation for him will be up there with the greatest transfer deals we have ever done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 What price would you put on a Tarky compo if he went to another league 1 club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Head turned? Really? From a fellow L1 side or higher? Guess a la Matt Smith; he put himself in the shop window with very decent displays on itv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2509 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Millar may possibly be going back to Ireland in search of a better deal Ive heard. So that's one to think about... The only young player that we've offered a contract to that I will be devastated if he left would be Mellor, could mould him into a tidy player under LJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 What price would you put on a Tarky compo if he went to another league 1 club? The price of a Nandos half chicken, no chips or rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Cant see Millar going, Mellor has a big future ahead I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The price of a Nandos half chicken, no chips or rice. Throw Rueben Reid in as well and you have yourself a :censored: deal lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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