Armchair Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) I'm fairly glad Bouzanis has gone. I've seen many people here say we have 2 good keepers but, from what I've seen of Bouzanis, he: + is a good shot stopper - is weak positionally - doesn't command his area very well recently (he did at first - maybe a confidence thing) - has very inconsistent distribution. Usually 3 or 4 misplaced passes each half, typically so bad we can't even compete for the ball. (not offset imo by v good passes he occasionally pulls off) - isn't particularly intelligent from footballing perspective Jury is still out from me on Cisak. Edited May 1, 2013 by Armchair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Anyone thought this may be the reason Cisak was offered a deal No because Cisak is 24 when his contract expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Maybe we didn't offer a contract to Taylor because the compensation we'd get for employing him for twelve months whilst he sat on a physio table and rotted in the reserves would be minimal, and it's not worth him saying 'yes' and doing the same thing next season. He hasn't come through at Latics and I'd be stunned if any objective observer thought he had developed whilst he's been at BP. That is a fair point after all his injury could rule him out for a while still. I think his treatment will be on the club's insurance tab though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Overall I'm satisfied with the retained list, glad the youngsters in general are getting a chance although from the small amount I've seen of him I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor becomes a player who we've let slip through the net. It's a bold and risky move by LJ choosing Cisak over Bouzanis after the season they've both had. Both are good enough to be number one although I think Cisak will go on to play at a higher level than Bouzanis in the future, but Bouzanis would have been a safe choice after a decent season and with the chance that Cisak would be looking elsewhere to secure regular first-team football. If both do go I think we'll struggle to get a keeper of similar quality. It's possible we will, but unlikely. As for Croft, M'voto and Smith; Croft is the player that I think we will find most difficult to replace of the three. As good as M'voto has been for most of the season I think we could find an adequate replacement if he does go and while it would be difficult to get a like-for-like replacement for Smith, I don't think he'll fit into LJ's starting lineup anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) As for Croft, M'voto and Smith; Croft is the player that I think we will find most difficult to replace of the three. As good as M'voto has been for most of the season I think we could find an adequate replacement if he does go and while it would be difficult to get a like-for-like replacement for Smith, I don't think he'll fit into LJ's starting lineup anyway. A player who I would attempt to replace Croft with if he leaves would be Mark Duffy from Scunthorpe. I'm sure he'll be available in the summer with their relegation dragging him to a level of football below his quality. He is fast and skillful, often direct and assisted more goals than Crofty did this season, chipping in with 5 goals, too. I'm sure there'd be a few clubs following him but I'd certainly make an effort to sign him as he's been extremely impressive in both games against us this season and I doubt Scunthorpe have been paying him much more than we've been paying Crofty. Edited May 1, 2013 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 A player who I would attempt to replace Croft with if he leaves would be Mark Duffy from Scunthorpe. I'm sure he'll be available in the summer with their relegation dragging him to a level of football below his quality. He is fast and skillful, often direct and assisted more goals than Crofty did this season, chipping in with 5 goals, too. I'm sure there'd be a few clubs following him but I'd certainly make an effort to sign him as he's been extremely impressive in both games against us this season and I doubt Scunthorpe have been paying him much more than we've been paying Crofty. Agreed. Duffy always impresses but think it would be a non-starter trying to get him here . Sheff united enquired about him in January expect him to go somewhere offering a lot more than we can . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Overall I'm satisfied with the retained list, glad the youngsters in general are getting a chance although from the small amount I've seen of him I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor becomes a player who we've let slip through the net. It's a bold and risky move by LJ choosing Cisak over Bouzanis after the season they've both had. Both are good enough to be number one although I think Cisak will go on to play at a higher level than Bouzanis in the future, but Bouzanis would have been a safe choice after a decent season and with the chance that Cisak would be looking elsewhere to secure regular first-team football. If both do go I think we'll struggle to get a keeper of similar quality. It's possible we will, but unlikely. As for Croft, M'voto and Smith; Croft is the player that I think we will find most difficult to replace of the three. As good as M'voto has been for most of the season I think we could find an adequate replacement if he does go and while it would be difficult to get a like-for-like replacement for Smith, I don't think he'll fit into LJ's starting lineup anyway. For his goals to games ratio Lj must surely be thinking its about getting the right players around smith ? Smith with Jose just behind could be lethal . There would be a distinct lack of pace in that partnership but I couldn't see another flaw to it . 26 goals between them in a struggling team last season, that's with smith rarely starting and Jose being used in central midfield for a large chunk of the campaign . Get pace in the wings , central midfielders who will bomb on and arrive in the box late to play off the space Jose creates and feed off smiths knock downs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Would be stunned if Cisak was still here come August. Any of the reserve watchers got a strong opinion on Jacob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 For his goals to games ratio Lj must surely be thinking its about getting the right players around smith ? Smith with Jose just behind could be lethal . There would be a distinct lack of pace in that partnership but I couldn't see another flaw to it . 26 goals between them in a struggling team last season, that's with smith rarely starting and Jose being used in central midfield for a large chunk of the campaign . Get pace in the wings , central midfielders who will bomb on and arrive in the box late to play off the space Jose creates and feed off smiths knock downs . Everybody in the know on here says Smith is away elsewhere. We need a :censored: off a shovel striker who Baxter can thread little throughballs to, would happily take Derbyshire in exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Would be stunned if Cisak was still here come August. Any of the reserve watchers got a strong opinion on Jacob? Good shot stopper, lacked physical presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Good shot stopper, lacked physical presence. Agree that physical presence is a key attribute at this level BP, we should be releasing Millar and Winchester on the same basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 A player who I would attempt to replace Croft with if he leaves would be Mark Duffy from Scunthorpe. I'm sure he'll be available in the summer with their relegation dragging him to a level of football below his quality. He is fast and skillful, often direct and assisted more goals than Crofty did this season, chipping in with 5 goals, too. I'm sure there'd be a few clubs following him but I'd certainly make an effort to sign him as he's been extremely impressive in both games against us this season and I doubt Scunthorpe have been paying him much more than we've been paying Crofty. I think LJ is more likely to go for a winger he knows who I understand is out of contract at Kilmarnock, James Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think LJ is more likely to go for a winger he knows who I understand is out of contract at Kilmarnock, James Dayton. Anything in this or just a hunch? Had a spell at Yeovil too. Shiels seems to think he should be playing for England... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/scottish-premier/9967143/James-Dayton-should-play-for-England-says-Kilmarnock-manager-Kenny-Shiels-and-hes-not-joking.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Dayton been offered a new 3-year contract at Kilmarnock. Says he's focused on recovering from injury (broken ribs) before he continues negotiations and sorts out his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microcuts Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Dayton been offered a new 3-year contract at Kilmarnock. Says he's focused on recovering from injury (broken ribs) before he continues negotiations and sorts out his future. Took only five minutes of solid research (stalking) to find that he is good mates with LJ. https://twitter.com/jamesdayton10/status/278512274107412481/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Someone on one of the Kilmarnock forums reckons LJ has gone in for James Dayton and William Gros. Both seem to split opinion but someone on the forum says that since January, they have been their 2 best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 didn't we have an option on cisak for another year? I think the fact that they say talks are ongoing basically means weve offered him a crap wage as number 2, he will be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Agreed. Duffy always impresses but think it would be a non-starter trying to get him here . Sheff united enquired about him in January expect him to go somewhere offering a lot more than we can . Duffy was at Southport and then like Carl Baker he moved to Morecambe, I'd say Latics have as good a chance as anyone now he's officially a League Two player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Connor Hughes has signed for Hyde. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22728884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 What happened with Hughes? From the brief glimpses I saw of him he looked ok, certainly thought he showed more quality than Sutherland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hughes is more than 2 years older than Sutherland. Suspect the latter is showing more promise than the former actually delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hughes suffered from other players being in the same position, combined with never being given a proper chance. For the few minutes I saw of him I thought he had potential. But I didn't see more than three hours of him, and neither did anybody else. So I can't say he's great or :censored:e. Neither can anybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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