NewBlue Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 We seem to have a relatively predictable back 4 when they're fit, that being: Lanzoni at RB, Kusunga and Tarky in CB and Grounds at LB. I'd say the same about the midfield pair being Korey Smith and Wes. However, our attacking line-up is far more contentious. With the likes of Rooney, JCH, Montano, Dayton, MacDonald, Philliskirk and Schmeltz at disposal who should we play and in what system? Personally I would choose Dayton and Philliskirk in the CAM positions, supporting MacDonald and Rooney. That excluding Montano and JCH who I think are equally as worthy of a place. It's a tough dilemma for LJ yet it needs to be sorted by the 16th for MK Dons in order for us to have settled team ready to build partnerships and understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 We seem to have a relatively predictable back 4 when they're fit, that being: Lanzoni at RB, Kusunga and Tarky in CB and Grounds at LB. I'd say the same about the midfield pair being Korey Smith and Wes. However, our attacking line-up is far more contentious. With the likes of Rooney, JCH, Montano, Dayton, MacDonald, Philliskirk and Schmeltz at disposal who should we play and in what system? Personally I would choose Dayton and Philliskirk in the CAM positions, supporting MacDonald and Rooney. That excluding Montano and JCH who I think are equally as worthy of a place. It's a tough dilemma for LJ yet it needs to be sorted by the 16th for MK Dons in order for us to have settled team ready to build partnerships and understanding. We do however need to change our shape/system as we are not providing enough shots on target when our football is in the main excellent and good to watch! LJ sticks by his 'wingers' who come into the hole, rather than the touchline wizards so I would like him to try more of a 4-3-3 system with at least 1 wide player staying wide, Schmeltz or Montano and even on occasions going to 3 at the back, especially at home at nil-nil! JCH all the time for me, I am afraid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelatics Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 When we start to shoot and score goals it will be an easy problem to solve. Until then Philly and JH until Mac is fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Until we work out how best to use Rooney it's McDonald and Philliskirk as a front two for me with JCH first change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Until we work out how best to use Rooney it's McDonald and Philliskirk as a front two for me with JCH first change. Sorry, until we work out how to use Rooney we don't use Rooney? Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Heck C-Beck Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Jch and Rooney for me. I only listen to games but isn't Rooney top scorer and jch always sounds a real handful. I feel our main problem something that has been a problem now for a long time is a real goal scoring midfielder. In the past we have had Taylor eyres duxbury etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Philliskirk and McDonald look more likely to score than Rooney. Better goals per game ratios I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sorry, until we work out how to use Rooney we don't use Rooney? Hmmm.... Yeah, it's why they have training grounds and reserve fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brierleys555 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I would like out twocentral midfielders to chip in with some league goals.its getting a bit like croft last year. wes managed it in the cup so some in the league wouldnt go amiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 If its 4-4-2, if all fit, then; Rachubka Brown Tarky Kasunga Grounds Dayton Wes Korey Monty Rooney MacDonald If we want to be more adventurous, 4-2-3-1 Rachubka Brown Tarky Kasunga Grounds Wes Korey Monty Philliskirk Dayton JCH – but he must be told to stay central and not go drifting off to the wings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) If its 4-4-2, if all fit, then; Rachubka Brown Tarky Kasunga Grounds Dayton Wes Korey Monty Rooney MacDonald If we want to be more adventurous, 4-2-3-1 Rachubka Brown Tarky Kasunga Grounds Wes Korey Monty Philliskirk Dayton JCH – but he must be told to stay central and not go drifting off to the wings! Lanzoni has to be in when fit. Edited November 5, 2013 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) 1 league goal this calendar year (Furman at Stevenage in Feb) from a recognised CM - until Johnson sorts this issue we will toil. If strikers aren't getting in the box then at least one CM should be breaking from deep to arrive in there. It doesn't happen and hasn't since we sold Stephens.... Edited November 5, 2013 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Lanzoni has to be in when fit. I believe he's a Centre Half by trade, so he can and Kasunga can duke it out..... provide cover, or push Brown for RB, or dare I say it..... be Tarky's replacement when the inevitable sale comes.... hopefully not in Jan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 1 league goal this calendar year (Furman at Stevenage in Feb) from a recognised CM - unit Johnson sorts this issue we will toil. If strikers aren't getting in the box then at least one CM should be breaking from deep to arrive in there. It doesn't happen and hasn't since we sold Stephens.... Wow, is that right!?! That is some stat! This highlights the fact that Wes and Korey are very similar. Sadly they are our best 2 midfielders, hence they start week in week out. If we accept they are similar and wish to play them both, then arguably 4-4-2 it cannot be..... this is why I offer up something like a 4-2-3-1. This would require all of Monty, Dayton and Philliskirk to be chipping in with regular enough goals. 10 each over the season maybe. The alternative of course, is that we find an Attacking CM [Redfearn?] and drop one of Wes or Korey when playing 4-4-2. Can Mellor play that role? He's not a left back for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) 1 league goal this calendar year (Furman at Stevenage in Feb) from a recognised CM - until Johnson sorts this issue we will toil. If strikers aren't getting in the box then at least one CM should be breaking from deep to arrive in there. It doesn't happen and hasn't since we sold Stephens....But we are starting to get goals from our wide men this season which is a plus and should be less of an issue. This is where we really missed Chris Taylor las season however I think Dayton is capable of getting goals if anything I'm disappointed he hasn't got the ball out of his feet and had a crack more often he's got it in him. The cms and wide men should be looking to make runs beyond the strikers. Some people have said the problem was in attack last season others have said it was at the back it was neither the problem was the midfield. The cms rayed in the centre and the wingers stayed wide. Because of that we didn't give teams enough to think about and it cost Paul Dickov his job. If you have players running from deep you can create space and opportunities for the strikers already in the box. Edited November 5, 2013 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 We should go and get the lad Maghoma from Sheff Weds, not catching there but got a bagful for Burton last season. Oh and Paddy Madden out of favour at Yeovil, be nice if Papa Johnson would send him our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 1 league goal this calendar year (Furman at Stevenage in Feb) from a recognised CM - until Johnson sorts this issue we will toil. If strikers aren't getting in the box then at least one CM should be breaking from deep to arrive in there. It doesn't happen and hasn't since we sold Stephens.... Massive bug bear of mine this. Crying out for a Duxbury who would chip in with regularity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Massive bug bear of mine this. Crying out for a Duxbury who would chip in with regularity... He won't break up his 2 deep holding midfielders system, strange when he could see it didn't work for PD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullet Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Massive bug bear of mine this. Crying out for a Duxbury who would chip in with regularity... Mellor or drop Philliskirk deeper? Edited November 5, 2013 by Mullet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Dux had the best midfielder we've had in god knows how long constantly sat behind him dictating play in shez . As a result he could get in the box nine times out if ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Dux had the best midfielder we've had in god knows how long constantly sat behind him dictating play in shez . As a result he could get in the box nine times out if ten.So basically, and i think i've nailed it here - we just need to find an aging 30odd year old ex International, who has fallen out of the league, currently playing non-league, and get them in to play CM for us. Then all will be sweet again.... (Should have winky smiley face here, but on my phone!!!) Edited November 6, 2013 by slystallone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) So basically, and i think i've nailed it here - we just need to find an aging 30odd year old ex International, who has fallen out of the league, currently playing non-league, and get them in to play CM for us. Then all will be sweet again.... (Should have winky smiley face here, but on my phone!!!) Edgar Davids - come on down Then Scholesy could continue to pay his £20 as a fan. Edited November 6, 2013 by LaticsPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 So basically, and i think i've nailed it here - we just need to find an aging 30odd year old ex International, who has fallen out of the league, currently playing non-league, and get them in to play CM for us. Then all will be sweet again.... (Should have winky smiley face here, but on my phone!!!) Not saying that at all . Just pointing out Dux had licence to roam and get into the box because he had shez pulling strings sat deep behind him . In a similar way Gary mac had a good goal return when he had wellens doing a similar job as shez . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Personally I would build the team around Dayton in a central position behind the strikers as he can be almost unplayable in there. That along with Philliskirk's touch and awareness would mean we can actually create through the middle. You can't play Dayton centrally in a 2 so I'd go with wing backs who are clever on the ball and can retain possession. Rachubka Kusunga Tarky Grounds Winchester Mills Smith Weso Dayton Philliskirk McDonald This only works if Mills signs for the rest of the season, but every single player is comfortable in possession. The 3 centre halfs give Smith & Weso license to push further up the pitch along with the option for one of them to hold and cover when we push Winchester and Mills right up when dominating teams. You'd hope LJ is 'cultured' enough to deviate from 4-4-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I quite like Dayton, think he's shown some quality at times, describing him as almost unplayable is a bit beyond the boundary though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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