jburbri Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Kelly breaks the play up and gives it to Jones who expresses himself and gives latics the impetus. I hope it is Wilkinson I liked him as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 New signing to be completed Monday according to Twitter Who's Twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Kelly breaks the play up and gives it to Jones who expresses himself and gives latics the impetus. I hope it is Wilkinson I liked him as a player. do we need him and Ibehre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 do we need him and Ibehre? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 do we need him and Ibehre? Yeah, IMO we do. Forte and Ibhere as 1st choice pair, with Wilkinson and Turner as back up from the bench. Poleon should be nowhere near the side ATM. Far from writing him off so soon mind, but - at present, he shouldnt be featuring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Honestly can't believe anyone would think Kelly was poor against Orient. Dictated a lot of play against a good side who were really organised. Wouldn't have liked to see what would've happened if he hadn't been so 'negative' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Wilkinson instead of Poleon would've made a big difference today too. Edited November 9, 2014 by Boys in Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'd still prefer my baseless Nicky Maynard rumour to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Honestly can't believe anyone would think Kelly was poor against Orient. ' I can. He is ':censored:e' remember. Loads and loads and loads of our fans are :censored:un clueless, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can. He is ':censored:e' remember. Loads and loads and loads of our fans are :censored:un clueless, A group of 4 or 5 near me were well & truly in the 'Kelly's :censored:e' camp - I thought most had now seen what he brings to the party; and how good he is at it? Obviously not. Same bunch were Poleon bashing too. Someone pulled them up on it; and they denied it - right after they'd slagged him off loudly within his earshot. Now - i'll admit i too thought he was more than a bit pish yesterday (again) - but getting on his back, loudly, at games isnt really going to help him along is it? We do some fans with very strange ideas of 'support' that's for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazlatic Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) do we need him and Ibehre? I always remember Big Joe's philosophy of "Collecting strikers" so I would say yep! Edited November 9, 2014 by dazlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Anybody who thinks Liam Kelly is ':censored:e' knows absolutely nothing about football - or indeed about how our manager is setting us up to play. He was efficient, unremarkable, yet essential to a hard fought, scrappy - and all the more valuable for it! - win!! We have to work on maintaining the tempo of our play as we tire in the second half, and ensuring we keep our options when in possession is key. To do that well, Liam Kelly is absolutely essential!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Another midfielder probably....at least he might be able to make a forward pass rather than sideways or backwards...that was :censored: today from Kelly! LJ on Kelly's performance yesterday: "I thought Kelly was excellent for the whole game."... But what does he know eh? Edited November 9, 2014 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shefflatic Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Anybody who thinks Liam Kelly is ':censored:e' knows absolutely nothing about football - or indeed about how our manager is setting us up to play. He was efficient, unremarkable, yet essential to a hard fought, scrappy - and all the more valuable for it! - win!! We have to work on maintaining the tempo of our play as we tire in the second half, and ensuring we keep our options when in possession is key. To do that well, Liam Kelly is absolutely essential!! Those that think so will realize what he brings to the team when he misses a game shortly due to 5 yellows, same goesfor J Wilson as well, both on 4 yellows Need them both massively for the sheff utd and dale games If at all possible i'd take a tactical booking against Sheff Utd so they both miss the JPT game Like many after 6 games i couldn't see what Kelly's purpose was or what his attributes were; far from being match fit, he performed dreadfully, could do nothing right. Then another 5 or so games fitness in him and getting used to Jones, he slowly became more influential in games, passed better and started to assert himself on opponents more. He is now quite rightly our key player, nothing fancy but he always seems one move ahead when in posession and his positioning is very good. Gladly proved wrong, as i'm sure many others are, that's what we wanted to happen and he's done it. Credit to him, gets on and does his job Edited November 9, 2014 by shefflatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Kelly played and persumably trained all pre-season, this 'he wasn't match fit' guff is bollocks - we stopped hoofing it so much after Preston, that's where the improvement in the team has come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Anybody who thinks Liam Kelly is ':censored:e' knows absolutely nothing about football - or indeed about how our manager is setting us up to play. He was efficient, unremarkable, yet essential to a hard fought, scrappy - and all the more valuable for it! - win!! We have to work on maintaining the tempo of our play as we tire in the second half, and ensuring we keep our options when in possession is key. To do that well, Liam Kelly is absolutely essential!! He's been a lot better since becoming the only holding midfielder, he seems to thrive on responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 He's been a lot better since becoming the only holding midfielder, he seems to thrive on responsibility. This is definitely the case. When Jones was deep with him it could almost be said they got in each other's way. The fact the team is better balanced has helped his performances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can. He is ':censored:e' remember. Loads and loads and loads of our fans are :censored:un clueless, Yup. Anyone who suggests any of our players are ":censored:e" at the moment is trying too hard to be negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitey1980 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 One aspect of the side that has helped all the back 5 (if you include Kelly as a deep lying midfielder) has been the quality of Rachubka's distribution. He is excellent at inviting the runner into space with ball in hand which has allowed both the full backs to offer up the line with confidence. In addition his comfort with the ball at both his feet means the centre backs and Kelly can offer in tighter situations and still have the return ball as a safe option. Its a strength of his game that is crucial to us at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 This is definitely the case. When Jones was deep with him it could almost be said they got in each other's way. The fact the team is better balanced has helped his performances This is definitely the case. When Jones was deep with him it could almost be said they got in each other's way. The fact the team is better balanced has helped his performances Interesting point. I think what LJ has done by playing the diamond or whatever it is , is making 4 new positions for his favoured midfielders.. Winchester - not quick enough for right wing or strong enough for centre mid , can dribble and make incisive passes, tackle and cover back so make him inside right wing centre mid Kelly - as said above got in jones way. Doesn't have the pace or passing ability for creative centre mid but can tackle and pass short both forwards and sideways and always be in the right place to pick up the scraps or a pass from another player. so make him central back mid. Jones - the best of the bunch in my opinion so let him do it all.. Run with the ball, pass it, cross it beat players, defend and take free kicks - outside/ inside *left / centre mid wing back.. *Can also replace left with right if required Philliskirk - not strong enough to play up front on his own or in a pair, or to play in central mid. Not quick enough to play wide. can pass , dribble, shoot, fall over expertly , tackle back and run forever and head it. So play him number 10 1/2 behind a front two - sorted, world beater Which I think says I mean we have a very good manager in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have always liked someone playing in the 10 1/2 position-this is not an innuendo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Another midfielder probably....at least he might be able to make a forward pass rather than sideways or backwards...that was :censored: today from Kelly! I dont think you get how football works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Where's SavDaBeast, he usually has the inside track on all incomings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Aaron McLean. Now that is surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Daniel Johnson. He played quite well against us for Chesterfield. And he had fun hair. Edited November 10, 2014 by jsslatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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