deyres42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 The bloke played poleon as a lone striker yesterday, now ask yourself is he the man for the job. iF you answer yes, then your as clueless as he is . Not exactly blessed with options in the forward positions Riggo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 It's a comparison between sides and you can't discount just how calamitous it has been at the management level at the club since February. Smith has built this Walsall side over a few seasons, Hasselbaink is new but Burton have been a stable club with good managers with direction, Gillingham have Edinburgh at the helm who also seems to have instilled something that has run from the back end of last season. Prozac is spot on above. We let the momentum of last season drain away with Holden and it's come to bite us on the arse, unfortunately. Add to that the appointment of a guy who was against it from the start, and wasn't capable of the task. All very good points. So why is there little or no desire/patience to let Dunn have a go at trying to build something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Richard Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 All very good points. So why is there little or no desire/patience to let Dunn have a go at trying to build something similar? Because some fans are expecting a Holywood managerial appointment who Corney will give a pot of gold to to sign whoever we want at any cost, with immediate impact on the pitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) All very good points. So why is there little or no desire/patience to let Dunn have a go at trying to build something similar? If we had a manager who was sending us out to have a good go every game but not getting the results there would be desire/patience for that.... He's not sending us out to do that and we're bored :censored:less... Unfortunately for Dunn many of us have got no stomach for it now after too many years of little or no hope..... Edited November 1, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) Because some fans are expecting a Holywood managerial appointment who Corney will give a pot of gold to to sign whoever we want at any cost, with immediate impact on the pitch... No. I'd be perfectly happy with David Dunn if he had me enjoying watching us. Win, lose or draw (as long as we didn't lose too many)... In fact Dunn was a "Hollywood" appointment (& signing) in my eyes..... A month or two in he's looking more Hollinwood... Edited November 1, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Not exactly blessed with options in the forward positions Riggo. fuller? If he aint fit then why the hell bring him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 David dunn has given us the same amount of half decent perormances as darren kelly with more games. Yet gets a lot less stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Richard Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 No. I'd be perfectly happy with David Dunn if he had me enjoying watching us. Win, lose or draw (as long as we didn't lose too many)... I think he will given time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Dunn's post match comments yesterday were an insult to everybody who spent their money watching that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 David dunn has given us the same amount of half decent perormances as darren kelly with more games. Yet gets a lot less stick And he comes across as if he doesn't give a :censored: in post match interviews. Can somebody please tell me what he has brought to the club, not liked him from day one but can someone please explain what he offers us, someone described it as losing a decent player and ending up with a :censored: manager which is pretty much where I am at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 David dunn has given us the same amount of half decent perormances as darren kelly with more games. Yet gets a lot less stick We shouldn't be looking to give anyone stick, it's not a badge of honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We shouldn't be looking to give anyone stick, it's not a badge of honour. I can not see where I said we should. Am pointing out Darren Kelly got so much abuse and David Dunn is getting off lightly in comparison yet its much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I can not see where I said we should. Am pointing out Darren Kelly got so much abuse and David Dunn is getting off lightly in comparison yet its much the same. It's less chaotic with Dunn, players seem to know what is being asked of them even if it isn't great to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 There was a clamour for Dowie to get the job before Darren Kelly did. Dowie did exactly the same... Dowie left us after we started coming out of the :censored: (thanks to him). He went up a division. :censored:face left us after leading us into the :censored:. He went to a similar club in the same division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I think he will given time. What makes you say that? I hope he will but that's blind hope. What I've seen so far suggests he won't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 David dunn has given us the same amount of half decent perormances as darren kelly with more games. Yet gets a lot less stick Because, despite similarly :censored: results & arguably poorer performances, he does seem to have more about him than Kelly. He seems to have more (I.E. some) respect from his players and staff and seems to have contacts that could serve us very well in the future.... Unfortunately it all goes to :censored: at 3pm every Saturday at the moment..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Would people be happy with a Jim Bentley/John Coleman type? Maybe a Martin Allen? Or would the snobbish attitudes not allow it, we should be getting better than that etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Would people be happy with a Jim Bentley/John Coleman type? Maybe a Martin Allen? Or would the snobbish attitudes not allow it, we should be getting better than that etc? I'd take Danny Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) All very good points. So why is there little or no desire/patience to let Dunn have a go at trying to build something similar? There was something built and it's been dismantled so quickly that patience has been lost. That and the sneaky nature of his appointment has soured it. I am happy for him to be given time but most managers are judged as an extension of the regime and context above them. See: Darren Kelly. Edited November 1, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 As if people are contemplating sacking our fourth manager in the calendar year. I don't think Corney would do it but what is Dunns contract length? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 As if people are contemplating sacking our fourth manager in the calendar year. I don't think Corney would do it but what is Dunns contract length? We can be this season's Watford.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Where is the older head in the management team team Dunn, Holden and the new coach all seem out of the same mould to me, all powerpoints and bollocks but little experiance in the real world, what makes anyone think Dunn is any more ready than Kelly was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 As if people are contemplating sacking our fourth manager in the calendar year. I don't think Corney would do it but what is Dunns contract length? We've only sacked one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluear Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 Where is the older head in the management team team Dunn, Holden and the new coach all seem out of the same mould to me, all powerpoints and bollocks but little experiance in the real world, what makes anyone think Dunn is any more ready than Kelly was? None of them changed anything. None of them can clearly motivate the players. All we need is a motivator not a genius tactician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 It's less chaotic with Dunn, players seem to know what is being asked of them even if it isn't great to watch. So are they doing it wrong or being asked to do the wrong things, because it's produced no quantifiable improvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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