RoytonLatics Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I am of the understanding that we are in talks to be taken over. Maybe showing our unrest might just speed this up. The club is a :censored:ing joke this is not just a paddy after a defeat I said same thing months ago. Lie after lie from the club. Shall we just sit back and say or do nothing and when we go down say ah well they saved us 12/13 years ago?? 5 year plan my arse!! Or put them off completely.... Edited January 2, 2016 by RoytonLatics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Or put them off completely.... Can anyone seriously say at all they are happy with the way the club has gone since this time last year?? Maybe when the chron reported corney had quit they was right after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's interesting that the only person who thinks he should be given time is the person who doesn't spend a penny on or waste a minute watching this absolute shower of :censored:e that we are being served up on a weekly basis. He's not the only person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Why didn't we carry on with the same tactics which led to the first goal - on the attack with Kelly well advanced? Was it the coaching staff or Kelly himself who decided to play so deep from that moment thus handing the initiative to Shrewsbury? Edited January 2, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Why didn't we carry on with the same tactics which led to the first goal - on the attack with Kelly well advanced? Was it the coaching staff or Kelly himself who decided to play so deep from that moment thus handing the initiative to Shrewsbury? Judging by their result Shrewsbury failed to grasp the initiative handed to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Judging by their result Shrewsbury failed to grasp the initiative handed to them. I assume you didnt go to see how they took the game to us then after we dropped deep then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_lead Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Primary skill of a manager/coach is to motivate and instill confidence into individuals such that they can perform to their potential. it is clear that the current set-up is incapable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I assume you didnt go to see how they took the game to us then after we dropped deep then ? Fair enough, I didn't go to the Shrewsbury game I was watching us against Colchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphibes Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I didn't see anything particularly wrong with his tactics today considering we were on course for a win until Cornell threw one in. We kept possession well and bossed the game to the extent Cornell didn't have a save to make. Considering our position in the league and the fact we haven't won at home since August what do you expect? We aren't going to go all out attack from the kick off and have twenty attempts on goal? This is a team in the bottom four of the third division, we're there for a reason and that reason isn't Dunn. Also the substitution didn't baffle me at all, he gave Poleon 20 minutes or so as Murphy was shagged. If your magic solution is sacking Dunn then I'm afraid your delusional. BBC stats say possession was 50%-50% in this game , in my book that is not bossing a game !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I didn't see anything particularly wrong with his tactics today considering we were on course for a win until Cornell threw one in. We kept possession well and bossed the game to the extent Cornell didn't have a save to make. Considering our position in the league and the fact we haven't won at home since August what do you expect? We aren't going to go all out attack from the kick off and have twenty attempts on goal? This is a team in the bottom four of the third division, we're there for a reason and that reason isn't Dunn. Also the substitution didn't baffle me at all, he gave Poleon 20 minutes or so as Murphy was shagged. If your magic solution is sacking Dunn then I'm afraid your delusional. Actually we did attack from the start in this game and went one up, so why not go for a second goal instead of inviting pressure by sitting back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Why didn't we carry on with the same tactics which led to the first goal - on the attack with Kelly well advanced? Was it the coaching staff or Kelly himself who decided to play so deep from that moment thus handing the initiative to Shrewsbury? Good that 'Jack Daniels' init!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbaltipie Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Halifax Town Managers done a sterling job since he came in... whats his name.... oh Jim Harvey ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I haven't commented on his work... I have said he hasn't been given a full chance yet to turn it around... He deserves, as a human :censored:ing being, to be given at least one opportunity to bring people in proper and implement his own ideas / plans... He's already bought 7 players in. And we've regressed dramatically. How many players should he bring in? A new 11? We have had a massive turnover if players over the years, it does not work. You only have took at his Joel Coleman handling to know management is not his forte. Edited January 2, 2016 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzell54 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 In answer to the original question: yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 BBC stats say possession was 50%-50% in this game , in my book that is not bossing a game !! Fact is without Cornell chucking it in for them we'd have won and deservedly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Fact is without Cornell chucking it in for them we'd have won and deservedly so. Col U deserved a point minimum out of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen. With what funds are you proposing we bring Dowie in with???Blitz? If it's true Corney has chucked the towel in... Edited January 2, 2016 by IceStationLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA11K Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Fact is without Cornell chucking it in for them we'd have won and deservedly so. 'Deservedly so', what game were you watching? They were one of the worst teams I have seen at BP and we near enough matched them. We had two efforts on goal, Murphy's finish and Cassidy's header, and sat our midfield so deep that there was a hole in the middle of the pitch big enough for Dean Windass to sit in. We looked scared of them! Anyone could see that their goal was coming, and instead of putting someone on to protect the lead at the end of the game (never mind the fact that we should've continued attacking them after we scored) he sticks Poleon on the wing and takes off Murphy, who was our main outlet and also presses their midfield when the opposition have possession. It's madness and a draw was a fair result for the shocking tactics employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 'Deservedly so', what game were you watching? They were one of the worst teams I have seen at BP and we near enough matched them. We had two efforts on goal, Murphy's finish and Cassidy's header, and sat our midfield so deep that there was a hole in the middle of the pitch big enough for Dean Windass to sit in. We looked scared of them! Anyone could see that their goal was coming, and instead of putting someone on to protect the lead at the end of the game (never mind the fact that we should've continued attacking them after we scored) he sticks Poleon on the wing and takes off Murphy, who was our main outlet and also presses their midfield when the opposition have possession. It's madness and a draw was a fair result for the shocking tactics employed. We had enough chances to have won the game comfortably but didn't take them. If you could see their goal coming then will you tell me next weeks lottery numbers cos you must have second sight. Dunn took Murphy off because he was :censored:ed, which was obvious to most people watching. Poleon didn't stay on the wing either he was playing through the centre within 10 minutes of coming on. Who would you have brought on 'to protect the lead' Rasulo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky_Latic Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Dunn said it himself. It's like a circus at times. Problem is we haven't paid 300 quid to watch a set of clowns. Two poor sides today. We'll be playing col u in league 2 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA11K Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 We had enough chances to have won the game comfortably but didn't take them. If you could see their goal coming then will you tell me next weeks lottery numbers cos you must have second sight. Dunn took Murphy off because he was :censored:ed, which was obvious to most people watching. Poleon didn't stay on the wing either he was playing through the centre within 10 minutes of coming on. Who would you have brought on 'to protect the lead' Rasulo? We had two chances and Cornell had more to do than their keeper. Their goal was obvious as we dropped deeper and deeper and gave them the whole middle third of the pitch. Poleon only went central after they scored. I'd have brought Yeates on who offers some defensive cover, even Croft! Dunn's game management is a joke, who goes 1-0 up so early in the game against a team who clearly lack quality and decides that we should spend the rest of the game sat in our half and pumping the ball to Cassidy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 We had enough chances to have won the game comfortably but didn't take them. If you could see their goal coming then will you tell me next weeks lottery numbers cos you must have second sight. Dunn took Murphy off because he was :censored:ed, which was obvious to most people watching. Poleon didn't stay on the wing either he was playing through the centre within 10 minutes of coming on. Who would you have brought on 'to protect the lead' Rasulo? Poleon came on and under instruction hugged the touchline, his first touch was a mis control on the touchline, we did revert back to a front 2 once we conceded but the damage was done and the momentum had shifted, I'm not saying a 4-5-1 wasn't the answer but Poleon most certainley wasn't, Croft would of at least kept their defence honest, Yeats on the left with Jones switching centrally or on the right would even of been better. One thing that worries me after watching us today is our ability fitness wise to see out a full 90 minutes, Jones, Wellens, Cassidy, Murphy, B Wilson and Philliskirk were all blowing out of their arses towards the end, our players have had relatively few games compared to many teams in our division and for me they should at least be fresher and not so jaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 We had two chances and Cornell had more to do than their keeper. Their goal was obvious as we dropped deeper and deeper and gave them the whole middle third of the pitch. Poleon only went central after they scored. I'd have brought Yeates on who offers some defensive cover, even Croft! Dunn's game management is a joke, who goes 1-0 up so early in the game against a team who clearly lack quality and decides that we should spend the rest of the game sat in our half and pumping the ball to Cassidy? Dunn's 'game management' is hampered somewhat by his limited options. You say Colchester lack quality, we're not exactly overflowing with it either. Like Dunn said we have players who are hiding and not taking responsibility for doing their job on the pitch that's why they sat deep, to protect what we had. Like it or not that's the reality because of the position we're in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Poleon came on and under instruction hugged the touchline, his first touch was a mis control on the touchline, we did revert back to a front 2 once we conceded but the damage was done and the momentum had shifted, I'm not saying a 4-5-1 wasn't the answer but Poleon most certainley wasn't, Croft would of at least kept their defence honest, Yeats on the left with Jones switching centrally or on the right would even of been better. One thing that worries me after watching us today is our ability fitness wise to see out a full 90 minutes, Jones, Wellens, Cassidy, Murphy, B Wilson and Philliskirk were all blowing out of their arses towards the end, our players have had relatively few games compared to many teams in our division and for me they should at least be fresher and not so jaded. Fair point about their fitness but Wellens and Cassidy haven't had much game time so understandable they tired. Dunn probably brought Poleon on as opposed to Croft cos for all his limitations he at least has a goal in him and can play through the middle unlike Croft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA11K Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Dunn's 'game management' is hampered somewhat by his limited options. You say Colchester lack quality, we're not exactly overflowing with it either. Like Dunn said we have players who are hiding and not taking responsibility for doing their job on the pitch that's why they sat deep, to protect what we had. Like it or not that's the reality because of the position we're in. This is near enough the same squad that everyone raved about last year. Now fair enough we were probably performing above our ability but those same players are far better than they showed today and definitely better than that Colchester team. I believe they are doing their job as instructed, which is part of the reason why we are doing so much worse this season than last - though the players may be limited, Johnson had them organised effectively and Dunn simply does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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