ChaddySmoker Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35827564 100% Ground ownership+ money in the bank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35827564 100% Ground ownership+ money in the bank! So it's took until now for them to run properly? What have they been up to for the last 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Like going from renting a house to buying one, the bills will go up. That ground is a dump and I'm sorry but they can't be that well run if they yo-yo between 2 :censored:e divisions all the time. Lets see how they go paying all the up keep costs that Latics have footed all this time. Want well run look at the top 2 or 3 sides in league 1. The groomers are no better run than OAFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 So it's took until now for them to run properly? What have they been up to for the last 20 years? Don't knock it .They can rightly be proud of their progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) They've been better run than us for a while. They accept they're a selling club but still try and build a stable team with a stable manager. No surprise they've gone from 30-odd years in L2, to two promotions and a play off final in the last ten years or so since Hill first arrived. Their list of ex-players who've moved up the leagues for decent money shows why they've done so well. Lambert, Holt, O'Grady, Dagnall, Dawson, Hogan, Murray etc. Edited March 16, 2016 by oafc-latics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitworthBlue Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Depends what you classify as progress. If staying in the 3rd tier division for 3 yrs is the sum of your achievements in history fair enough !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Depends what you classify as progress. If staying in the 3rd tier division for 3 yrs is the sum of your achievements in history fair enough !! Well I must admit they they are still years behind us on that issue.I was talking about their finanancial situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 towns of not hugely different size. I'll take our last 30 years and our next over theirs any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 So to summarise: they are currently much better organised than we are overall. And, as we are demanding success on the back of past glories, their bar is set much lower. If they achieve promotion to the championship within the next 5 years, they will have done it with methodical precision and will rightly deserve it. Some people would argue with a frikken sign post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Good for them. With 330 shareholders (the largest with 24%) it is highly likely they will be local. They still owe the council £500,000 repayable over 9yrs. They were well overdue the success they have enjoyed under Keith Hill after spending 36 consecutive years in the bottom tier. They also have the lowest average position in the Football League for clubs who have enjoyed continuous league membership since the 1921-22 season. I'm not envious at this moment in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 towns of not hugely different size. I'll take our last 30 years and our next over theirs any day of the week and twice on SH,w many How many teams in Premiership/Football League own their own ground and have money in the bank. That's what this debate is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 So it's took until now for them to run properly? What have they been up to for the last 20 years? Wasnt it you who was complaining the other day about everytime that you post you are met with childish responses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 towns of not hugely different size. I'll take our last 30 years and our next over theirs any day of the week and twice on Sunday. What about the last 20 or even the last 10? I think that it is quite self indulgent to assume that our future years will be better than theirs at least short term. I grant you that we had that unbelievable spell in cup semi finals and a final and promotion to the old first division but it is all but a distant memory now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Wasnt it you who was complaining the other day about everytime that you post you are met with childish responses?It was insults/insulting posts... I'm serious, they now own there own ground & fair play to them but when I read about it 2 hours before it was posted on here I wondered how someone would turn this around to criticise Latics. So seriously what have they been doing for the last 20 years if they are so well run? Why have they now only just been able to own their own ground. Someone mentioned a stable manager, who has already left once at the first decent offer. They came up & straight back in recent years after previously sitting in the same league for many years. Another criticism thrown at Latics. Edited March 16, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 It was insults/insulting posts... I'm serious, they now own there own ground & fair play to them but when I read about it 2 hours before it was posted on here I wondered how someone would turn this around to criticise Latics. So seriously what have they been doing for the last 20 years if they are so well run? Why have they now only just been able to own their own ground. Someone mentioned a stable manager, who has already left once at the first decent offer. They came up & straight back in recent years after previously sitting in the same league for many years. Another criticism thrown at Latics. Is this the point where you try to argue that black is white? I knew about the proposal years ago and knew for sure 2 days ago but I didnt try to bring that up to justify my point because that is irrelevant. TTA have left us currently (ignore the last 20 or 30 years as they are history now) as tenants in 'our' ground with a new facility the profits of which are being diverted to another of their Companies for which they expect us to be eternally grateful. I aint bothered much about Dale but I do admire where they are now, which is above us, and how solvent they are and probably most importantly how secure their future appears to be. Compare them to us with our overhanging debt. Yeah, good on them! I give credit where it is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 · Hidden by Ackey, March 17, 2016 - No reason given Hidden by Ackey, March 17, 2016 - No reason given The groomersHigh standards from someone who thinks you can :censored: an unconscious girl so long as she's over age Link to comment
Forte_Baby Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Doubt the Hornets will be happy with this from what I read they always felt they be pushed out if Rochdale got full control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 · Hidden by Ackey, March 17, 2016 - No reason given Hidden by Ackey, March 17, 2016 - No reason given High standards from someone who thinks you can :censored: an unconscious girl so long as she's over age Why do you feel the need to comment on my posts with opinions I don't hold? Link to comment
Matt Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Well done Rochdale, and good look to them. Supporter-owned Hornets have seemed to welcome the news officially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Rochdale may own their ground but they haven't got a £6.5M stand which will see us probably double what they get in match day revenue. This is what will kill them sustaining L1 status, they have a small fanbase (as we've seen from their away support at BP) and rely on selling the gems they uncover, how long that will last is anyone's guess, but it's a risky business model. The only thing I'm jealous of them over is they seem to be able to unearth a decent goal scorer which we certainly don't seem to be able to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Note that the stadium is owned by a separate company. Albeit that company is now 100% owned by the football club. Now, how do Latics raise the cash to get to the same place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 While it makes for healthy debate, comparing how other League clubs are run is a futile way of assessing how our club could benefit. Rochdale have slowly evolved to where they are now with mostly trials and tribulations along the way. No two clubs are identical in their circumstances, land, ownership, fan base and fan expectations. Most of our fans want us out of L1 and not downwards. Suggesting Rochdale have found the holy grail for us to perhaps copy is way off the mark. What is needed to put it to the test is a group of fans with vision, enthusiasm and more than a little capital to get us off the ground - a much smaller ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Stable managers and holy grail? This thread is turning into a religious crusade. Isn't Grant Holt a carpenter by trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 They haven't got a McDonald's and their only Moon is underwater. Be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 :censored: the dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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