Magister Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 51 minutes ago, palmer1 said: He and Clarke are not the quickest and may not have started the season in the best form but the main issue is that they are being exposed time and time again by midfield that is not doing it's job. You will not and have not heard Shez criticise the centre of our defence because they are not the problem. i think we have actually in his diatribe about Oxfords first goal and being 4 on 1 and how the 4 got the decision making wrong...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayvan Cowboy Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Gerrard isn't all that to be honest. I'd sooner have Wilson back there, or one of Stott or Edmondson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, latics22 said: Ripley at time looked over weight, but I saw him in pure gym it was all muscle. Gerrard looks like he has lost at least two stone over the summer! He's only 31 Yeah at 33 stone he was a bit of a lump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Jesus. Is that a prayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Some people on here have very selective memory. Embarrassing comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) Gerrard's played 40 games for us. Won 18. 16 clean sheets. Seems to do alright for a fat lad. Edited August 13, 2017 by josh_latics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Whittaker v Wellens Mvoto v Tarkowski Lomax v Eardley Now Edmondson/Stott v Gerrard... Some of you obviously don't like football and don't deserve success...fkn heathens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, palmer1 said: Whittaker v Wellens Mvoto v Tarkowski Lomax v Eardley Now Edmondson/Stott v Gerrard... Some of you obviously don't like football and don't deserve success...fkn heathens! My Clarke v Gregan thread needs dusting off again later this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 i'd like to see the youngsters get a chance alongside Clarke.....good to see Tarky play in the greedy league yesterday and help beat the champions......mind you, he did get skinned for both Chelsea goals !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 22 hours ago, Andy b said: Our defensive regard last year was significantly better before Gerrard joined. I am not a fan When you go more attacking you tend to concede a few more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, BP1960 said: Is that a prayer? Yeah a Man City prayer I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Gerrard was fine yesterday. I personally think he's carrying too much timber, but he won almost everything in the air yesterday and made a goal-saving tackle midway through the 2nd half. I'm pretty convinced it's a myth that Gerrard and Clarke don't get on - I've seen them both in the gym together over the past couple of weeks and they seem like they get on very well. That said, we defended painfully deep yesterday. Probably to compensate for the lack of pace at the back, but it invites unnecessary pressure on us when we're so deep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, RobOAFC said: When you go more attacking you tend to concede a few more... All big Joe's fault, look where it got us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Bristolatic said: Any idea what he weighs? You'd need to if you suggest he's able to lose two stone. 28lbs is quite a lot. I'm 14 and a half stone and, if I was only 12 and a half, I think I'd feel quite ill. And, no, I'm not 6'6" and built like a brick shithouse. A shave would take 6 pounds off you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, palmer1 said: Whittaker v Wellens Mvoto v Tarkowski Lomax v Eardley Now Edmondson/Stott v Gerrard... Some of you obviously don't like football and don't deserve success...fkn heathens! In fariness, if Stott ends up in the Premier League people might bring up this and take it the complete other way. We simply don't know enough to say how good Stott is. M'voto, however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, OldHallam said: Another barmy thread. Teams that don't score enough struggle at the back, teams with a weak midfield get over run and more pressure on defence. Ball keeps coming back at you. Defending starts by people doing jobs well all over pitch the Otzumer goal was comedy gold how he got a tap in having started on the touchline. Clarke cant be star man every week, Gerrard is fitter than most who post on here or shout abuse. I am more concerned with keeper situation as in not got two and players dont look as fit as they should or making bad decisions on and off the ball which makes them look bad. Sort midfield out and things will improve dramatically. Blaming Clarke and Gerrard is just typical latics tripe. The fitness of Gerrard in comparison to posters is totally irrelevant. He's not fit compared to the opposition, as the football has proven. Of course a better midfield would be helpful but a few of the goals have been uncharachteristically poor from the centre backs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, NewBlue said: The fitness of Gerrard in comparison to posters is totally irrelevant. He's not fit compared to the opposition, as the football has proven. Of course a better midfield would be helpful but a few of the goals have been uncharachteristically poor from the centre backs How has it been proven? I've watched 2 games and although slower than some forwards his fitness hasn't been an issue. He's completed 90 minutes easily like the rest of his team mates who haven't been called out for fitness. So what has he done or not done to show that John Sheridan John Harbin have made him play 3 games of football, while not fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I'd like to know what Clarke would have to do to come under any kind of scrutiny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, NewBlue said: In fariness, if Stott ends up in the Premier League people might bring up this and take it the complete other way. We simply don't know enough to say how good Stott is. M'voto, however... I'd like to see Stott in for a few reasons. Wilson, Gerrard & Clarke aren't pulling up trees as an experienced unit so you might aswell put Stott in over Wilson either as part of a 3 or at left back with Hunt moved over to RB. His defending is fine but he can also deliver a great ball, especially from set pieces. And, has as been said by a few people his being left footed would make us more balanced. Mostly though I think it's always good to have a kid or two in who the older stagers will need to talk through games as doing so tends to make you focus a bit more, or focus differently, on what you're doing yourself and lead by example. It could push Gerrard's and Clarke's performances up a notch or two. The same could be said for Fawns and I'd have him in too for Davies, Green, Tope, Banks to talk through. Edited August 13, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, deyres42 said: I'd like to know what Clarke would have to do to come under any kind of scrutiny... Do you think he's done (or not done) something that means he should? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, HarryBosch said: Do you think he's done (or not done) something that means he should? No, don't think Gerrard has either though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, deyres42 said: No, don't think Gerrard has either though. We could do with a goal from Clarke soon given our start to the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, palmer1 said: How has it been proven? I've watched 2 games and although slower than some forwards his fitness hasn't been an issue. He's completed 90 minutes easily like the rest of his team mates who haven't been called out for fitness. So what has he done or not done to show that John Sheridan John Harbin have made him play 3 games of football, while not fit? Look how slow he is. I'm not saying he's ever been quick but fucking hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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