HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, NewBlue said: Look how slow he is. I'm not saying he's ever been quick but fucking hell. What's your point? He's no slower or quicker than he's ever been as a Latics player..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, HarryBosch said: What's your point? He's no slower or quicker than he's ever been as a Latics player..... But he hasn't got visible abs so he's fat, lazy & unfit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Look how slow he is. I'm not saying he's ever been quick but fucking hell. What's that got to do with fitness? He has never been quick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, palmer1 said: What's that got to do with fitness? He has never been quick... Of course speed is to do with fitness. He may not ever have been quick but he'd be quicker if he was fitter, that's for certain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Of course speed is to do with fitness. He may not ever have been quick but he'd be quicker if he was fitter, that's for certain... I honestly don't think at 31 years old any increased level of fitness would give him any additional pace that would impact his performances to any significant level. He'd probably end up injured from over training were he to embrace your madcap theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Looks like we've had a security breach of the club's IT systems. Seems some of our fans have got hold of the players BMI data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Of course speed is to do with fitness. He may not ever have been quick but he'd be quicker if he was fitter, that's for certain... So your proven reason that Anthony Gerrard isn't fit is because he isn't quick!? Half the squads for the last 10 years have been unfit going by that theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, palmer1 said: So your proven reason that Anthony Gerrard isn't fit is because he isn't quick!? Half the squads for the last 10 years have been unfit going by that theory. You've misconstrued the point. The proof is the belly he owns, but you watch how slow and ponderous he is and you've got to think that increased fitness levels would render him sharper and faster. Like Harry says, maybe not by much but maybe it would be the difference in some situations. Watch him get skinned in the Walsall highlights - perhaps he wouldn't were he fitter. Can't possibly say for sure but it'd be nice if we couldn't use fitness as an excuse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Whether he is overweight / unfit/ slower is irrelevant. what is relevant is whether he is equipped to play the left side of a 3. If he isn't he restricts the system choices available to the manager who seems to me to want to play 3 5 2. My fear is that we have collected a pool of players some of whom are better suited to 3 5 2 and some who aren't and almost all are right footed. The outcome then becomes square pegs in round holes, players not being happy or comfortable with their prescribed roles and the wrong decisions being made at critical points of games. i think Sheridan feels constrained by certain key players limitations, hence his frustration......but then he has been party to recruitment so not blame free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, leeslover said: A shave would take 6 pounds off you. Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying. Pot. Black. Calling. Kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Oh, hang on Mr Lover. Not exactly clean shaven yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, NewBlue said: You've misconstrued the point. The proof is the belly he owns, but you watch how slow and ponderous he is and you've got to think that increased fitness levels would render him sharper and faster. Like Harry says, maybe not by much but maybe it would be the difference in some situations. Watch him get skinned in the Walsall highlights - perhaps he wouldn't were he fitter. Can't possibly say for sure but it'd be nice if we couldn't use fitness as an excuse... So now it's the no six pack defence! Everybody knows if you arent just lean muscle ghen you cant be fit right? Players are going to be quicker than him and will sometimes go passed him. It happens! It will also happen to Clarke, Hunt and Wilson. It happended to Stott at the end of last season. Was that about fitness? Funny how the one player with a bigger build than the rest of the squad who went through exactly the same pre season as the rest is now being singled out for criticism. He isnt even fkn fat! Oh and neither Sheridan, his coaching staff or players are using fitness as an excuse. It's our 'knowledgable' fans who immediately look for the easiest thing to criticise and then bleet about it all season when we lose. Edited August 13, 2017 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, palmer1 said: So now it's the no six pack defence! Everybody knows if you arent just lean muscle ghen you cant be fit right? Players are going to be quicker than him and will sometimes go passed him. It happens! It will also happen to Clarke, Hunt and Wilson. It happended to Stott at the end of last season. Was that about fitness? Funny how the one player with a bigger build than the rest of the squad who went through exactly the same pre season as the rest is now being singled out for criticism. He isnt even fkn fat! A man who is evidently not in peak physical condition is playing against men who are in peak physical condition. It's a disadvantage. It's quite simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, NewBlue said: A man who is evidently not in peak physical condition is playing against men who are in peak physical condition. It's a disadvantage. It's quite simple really. Except you have no idea what his physical condition is... You have no idea what the physical condition of the opponents are... You are surmising and It's all bollocks mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, OldHallam said: In your opinion.... The abuse flowing from armchair international players prompted my comment and will stick by it. Agreed, can't blame the centre backs for either goal from what I saw. Failure to close down by a forward and a midfielder cost us. Edited August 13, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 45 minutes ago, palmer1 said: Except you have no idea what his physical condition is... You have no idea what the physical condition of the opponents are... You are surmising and It's all bollocks mate! Don't need doctors notes to see mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 If Gerrard was at the peak of physical fitness he wouldn't be in league one. It was the same when we had Gregan. If he's 5lb heavier than he should be so what as he's better than anyone else we could get in on our budget. Besides being chubby isn't a sign of a lack of aerobic fitness either the same way as being skinny does mean your aerobically fit. Sort a decent defensive midfielder and it will be a different picture at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Both played fine yesterday. The least of our worries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Clarke hates gerrard that much that he signed a new 2 and half year deal to be gerrards defensive partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, 4froale said: Clarke hates gerrard that much that he signed a new 2 and half year deal to be gerrards defensive partner. On 13/08/2017 at 2:02 AM, KYLEOAFC said: They don't look at the form of Clarke when he's not playing with Gerrard and look at the interviews of Gerrard he's not a fan of Clarke and vice versa. Gerrard was the reason Clarke nearly went last year! One of these two posts must be incorrect That Clarke signed a new deal is a proven fact, thank you 4froale. I wonder when the OP is going to provide some facts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 15 hours ago, Bristolatic said: Oh, hang on Mr Lover. Not exactly clean shaven yourself. Have you been looking at my back??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 You'd be surprised. Very surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned him slacking off now he has a contract, an OWTB favourite that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 14 hours ago, Clifford said: If Gerrard was at the peak of physical fitness he wouldn't be in league one. It was the same when we had Gregan. If he's 5lb heavier than he should be so what as he's better than anyone else we could get in on our budget. Besides being chubby isn't a sign of a lack of aerobic fitness either the same way as being skinny does mean your aerobically fit. It's lower league body shaming and it needs to stop. Poor Gez has probably been making himself sick all night because of NewBlue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's lower league body shaming and it needs to stop. Poor Gez has probably been making himself sick all night because of NewBlue. Haha, I've never been one for the toned fellas anyway... Edited August 14, 2017 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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