Dave_Og Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The quality in those games today puts England's chances into a more realistic context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: The quality in those games today puts England's chances into a more realistic context. Thought exactly the same - 4 teams well ahead of us in all areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buckshawlatic said: Thought exactly the same - 4 teams well ahead of us in all areas Well, two, strictly, but I take your point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Well, two, strictly, but I take your point! ? good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: The quality in those games today puts England's chances into a more realistic context. I think we can beat both of those sides, especially Uruguay, as I think Cavani may not play again in this World Cup. But as we have to beat 3 other sides to play either of those, it is likely to be a bit moot. France v Uruguay could be another very good game I can't see that Uruguayan defense conceding 4, but I think a Cavani-less Uruguay is going to struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 What a team Uruguay are. Population 3.5 million, outstanding achievement. Their work rate is phenomenal. I've never liked Suarez but he was superb tonight, as were Cavani and Godin. Their discipline is also much improved, something Argentina could learn from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 We don’t have to play anyone particularly decent to the semis, if Spain get knocked out we play one possibly France in the final who looked excellent especially embpee. But they did concede 3 and we have a lot more pace and youth than Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Dave_Og said: The quality in those games today puts England's chances into a more realistic context. What is evident from the two round of 16 games is that teams and individuals need to raise their performance levels to progress. - we have seen with both France and Uruguay an increase in quality from the team as a whole and, more significantly, from key individuals such as Mbappe (what a player he will become) and Kante, Suarez, Cavani, Godin etc. However the lesser known players also need to play their part in a successful team performance as Pavard showed yesterday. We all know what players like Kane, Sterling, Lingard and Alli are capable of from their premier league form but now they need to grow as the tournament moves into the knockout stages. Stones and Trippier have already shown that they are good enough to compete on the World Cup stage. Ultimately an improvement in quality from team and individual is what will make the difference and that is the level that England need to reach if they are to go further in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, latics22 said: We don’t have to play anyone particularly decent to the semis, if Spain get knocked out we play one possibly France in the final who looked excellent especially embpee. But they did concede 3 and we have a lot more pace and youth than Argentina. Dont get the point we haven't got to play anyone decent. Colombia are no mugs, our next game may well be our last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Buckshawlatic said: Thought exactly the same - 4 teams well ahead of us in all areas To start with, Argentina are bang average. You're comparing teams playing in the group stage with one in the knockout where none of the four teams looked anything special. We outplayed two crap teams and didn't try to beat a third. I'm looking forward to seeing if we can step up from our good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, disjointed said: Dont get the point we haven't got to play anyone decent. Colombia are no mugs, our next game may well be our last. I don't think anyone is saying it'll be easy. Looking at the two sides of the draw one looks to be easier than the other. Colombia, Sweden and Switzerland are probably thinking that they're happier in our half too. I remember at Italia 90 people thinking we'd breeze past Cameroon and we only managed that by the skin of our teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, disjointed said: Dont get the point we haven't got to play anyone decent. Colombia are no mugs, our next game may well be our last. I’m not saying Columbia are shit or we have a Devine right to roll them over. My point is there not one of the “supposed” big boys. We are capable of beating them and if Rodriguez is injured and we can keep Falcao quiet. We should really be beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If Southgate can sort out the mental failings that have inhibited decent England teams in past knockout rounds then we are in with a great chance of making the semi finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, latics22 said: We don’t have to play anyone particularly decent to the semis, if Spain get knocked out we play one possibly France in the final who looked excellent especially embpee. But they did concede 3 and we have a lot more pace and youth than Argentina. How old are you? Colombia have got at least as much reason as we have to say they don't play anyone decent until the semi-finals. A small grasp of history goes a long way. Edited July 1, 2018 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: How old are you? Colombia have got at least as much reason as we have to say they don't play anyone decent until the semi-finals. A small grasp of history goes a long way. Yeah it does, theve reached the quarter finals once in there history compared to our 8 and we’ve won it! How old are u??? We’re ranked higher, lost once in the last year , have the current top scorer and have players that all play in one of the top leagues in Europe. We should win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, latics22 said: We should win And the Germans should have walked their group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Think we'll edge the game but it will be a tough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Think we'll edge the game but it will be a tough one. Ever the optimist eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Smiler13 said: Ever the optimist eh He may well be right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 hours ago, latics22 said: . We should really be beating them. Thought exactly the same against Iceland... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: And the Germans should have walked their group. You’re moving the goalposts now, thought we were basing it your odd version of “history”. Oh and to add to history, they have never beat us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, latics22 said: You’re moving the goalposts now, thought we were basing it your odd version of “history”. Oh and to add to history, they have never beat us.... I assume you aren’t referring to the Germans there? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, disjointed said: He may well be right though. And he could be Disjointed too. Hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Buckshawlatic said: I assume you aren’t referring to the Germans there? ? Def not ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Seems like im the only one who saw that FT result coming. Thought Spain would roll them in ET mind. Putin's labs back to their best it seems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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