Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Let's hope so Monty, be four when we get another 0-0 draw up at Gateshead next Saturday. draw away win at home is win the league form. lm not advocating Rhino forever, but stability now is paramount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: draw away win at home is win the league form. lm not advocating Rhino forever, but stability now is paramount. Yeah you're right, but we're not doing that. The 1 point per game we're currently getting is literally relegation form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, St92 said: Yeah you're right, but we're not doing that. The 1 point per game we're currently getting is literally relegation form. shit. panic. is there anywhere to turn that has more than 120 points left to play for???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I’m still up for giving him 10/15 games, but lose tomorrow and he will be seriously under pressure won’t he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, LightDN123 said: I’m still up for giving him 10/15 games, but lose tomorrow and he will be seriously under pressure won’t he ? He's under pressure now. He knows a third of the crowd are on his back. The players know it to. Edited August 27, 2023 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Lags said: He's under pressure now. He knows a third of the crowd are on his back. The players know it to. So 140 of the crowd yesterday did nothing but boo and slag the team and Unsworth off?. Doubt it. But it's a nice story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: I’m still up for giving him 10/15 games, but lose tomorrow and he will be seriously under pressure won’t he ? yes. he's been under pressure since day one, it nearly spilled into his chesterfield presser last week. not had a listen yet. hence no bargain bucket psychoanalyitcal waffle on yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 well, about Rhino anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: So 140 of the crowd yesterday did nothing but boo and slag the team and Unsworth off?. Doubt it. But it's a nice story. That’s not what he said. Your’s is the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 44 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: draw away win at home is win the league form. lm not advocating Rhino forever, but stability now is paramount. We need those home wins on a regular basis and the away form takes care of itself, because more often than not we'll sneak a draw, tomorrow needs to be better, will we win? can't be certain of that So there is no stability after all the good foundations put in place, the lack of footballing nouse is causing subsidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Littlemoor Lad said: We need those home wins on a regular basis and the away form takes care of itself, because more often than not we'll sneak a draw, tomorrow needs to be better, will we win? can't be certain of that So there is no stability after all the good foundations put in place, the lack of footballing nouse is causing subsidence. yep. just we differ which side of the castle the lack of nouse foundation burrowers are working from!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: So 140 of the crowd yesterday did nothing but boo and slag the team and Unsworth off?. Doubt it. But it's a nice story. No idea I wasn't there. But that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: shit. panic. is there anywhere to turn that has more than 120 points left to play for???????? We've scored 2 goals in 4 games if we take Aldershot out of it. We've got plenty of firepower up front but have got zero combined goals out of Nuttall, Fondop, Willoughby and Reid. We've been struggling in games yet consistently only used 2 subs We've been incredibly dull to watch We don't seem to have any tactics when in possession DU has had 40+ games and tactics have remained fairly constant He's claimed various things such as fitness, injuries, and quality of players were the issue, been given the resources to fix them, and it's stayed the same And all summer was promising a different brand of football, that hasn't happened apart from 1 game against an Aldershot team that many think would be in the relegation mix (who now also have more points than us) But let's ignore all of the above, because there are plenty of points left? I've not been one of the fans at games shouting they want him out etc, but if you offered me a new manager tomorrow I'd 1000% take it. In 99% of situations, any manager in professional football has this kind of record and they're replaced 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: I’m still up for giving him 10/15 games, but lose tomorrow and he will be seriously under pressure won’t he ? I don't really see any signs in the performances that things will change though. Like we don't seem to have an attacking identity, or a way we want to play. Seems like the plan is to hang on and just hope something happens What have you seen in the first 5 games to say 10-15 games is needed? Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just genuinely curious if anyone has seen anything It seems like for the most part we're just waiting and hoping Lundstram plays like a prime Pirlo when he's fit again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, St92 said: We've scored 2 goals in 4 games if we take Aldershot out of it. We've got plenty of firepower up front but have got zero combined goals out of Nuttall, Fondop, Willoughby and Reid. We've been struggling in games yet consistently only used 2 subs We've been incredibly dull to watch We don't seem to have any tactics when in possession DU has had 40+ games and tactics have remained fairly constant He's claimed various things such as fitness, injuries, and quality of players were the issue, been given the resources to fix them, and it's stayed the same And all summer was promising a different brand of football, that hasn't happened apart from 1 game against an Aldershot team that many think would be in the relegation mix (who now also have more points than us) But let's ignore all of the above, because there are plenty of points left? I've not been one of the fans at games shouting they want him out etc, but if you offered me a new manager tomorrow I'd 1000% take it. In 99% of situations, any manager in professional football has this kind of record and they're replaced l proof read lengthy posts and random made up stats and hypothetical deleting of selected matches abound in this. l'm therefore not reading it fully but also not doing a sardonic reply with the made up stats and deleted match in the favour of reason. cba. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, St92 said: We've scored 2 goals in 4 games if we take Aldershot out of it. In 99% of situations, any manager in professional football has this kind of record and they're replaced Picking and choosing what to include. Happens a lot here. That last comment is absolute tripe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Picking and choosing what to include. Happens a lot here. That last comment is absolute tripe l think that's what l said!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, Monty Burns said: l think that's what l said!! Hadn't read yours. We agree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 *mutters angrily about not caring about not being read and something the government and wizards or lizards not sure* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, St92 said: I don't really see any signs in the performances that things will change though. Like we don't seem to have an attacking identity, or a way we want to play. Seems like the plan is to hang on and just hope something happens What have you seen in the first 5 games to say 10-15 games is needed? Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just genuinely curious if anyone has seen anything It seems like for the most part we're just waiting and hoping Lundstram plays like a prime Pirlo when he's fit again I’m not his fan and would ideally like a replacement asap. I think 10/15 plus what we watched last year is a fair amount of games to judge him against. He has his target of being in the playoffs, is he’s not in them 10/15 games in then get rid. If we don’t pick up a win in the next 2/3 games then that might have to shift…. Agree on the Lundstram comment. From what I have seen of him, he’s an upgrade on Sheron and Shelton, but he’s not going to turn us into match winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: l proof read lengthy posts and random made up stats and hypothetical deleting of selected matches abound in this. l'm therefore not reading it fully but also not doing a sardonic reply with the made up stats and deleted match in the favour of reason. cba. No stats included, unless you're counting points per game and goal totals as stats And one anecdote at the end that no one would interpret as a stat Reads very much like a 'not got a constructive reply' comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Picking and choosing what to include. Happens a lot here. That last comment is absolute tripe What have I chosen to not include? Managers in most clubs wouldn't have been given until the January turnaround last year. Clubs aren't generally patient through runs with a couple of wins in 20 or so games (I haven't bothered to check the exact games before anyone says it's a fake stat or anything like that) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, St92 said: What have I chosen to not include? The game we won 5-1 as you pointed out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, St92 said: What have I chosen to not include? Managers in most clubs wouldn't have been given until the January turnaround last year. Clubs aren't generally patient through runs with a couple of wins in 20 or so games (I haven't bothered to check the exact games before anyone says it's a fake stat or anything like that) It's going to be difficult to get a win tomorrow and the longer it continues, the more perilous his position becomes, Not bothered about a clean sheet, just as long as it's 5-1 or even 2-1 Come on Dave, make our day and bring back that Aldershot feeling, it was magnificent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, St92 said: No stats included, unless you're counting points per game and goal totals as stats And one anecdote at the end that no one would interpret as a stat Reads very much like a 'not got a constructive reply' comment you opened with selective dropping of a match and ended with a percentage so forgive me for giving zero fucks about how my posts appear to somebody who thinks they are not including stats!!! don't worry l won't miss anything, you cant have been about too long if you think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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