oafc1955 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The way I read it if the trust led consortium matches any successful bid then it goes to the trust bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Abdallah must surely be involved in any bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Trust Oldham #ambiguouslads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikeroyboy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 While eagerly looking forward to Saturday I can’t help but ponder. A local retired player and Latics fan, who was coached as a youth by, arguably, the best youth coach of his era. Then went onto become, arguably, one of the best mid-fielders of his era for, arguably, one of the biggest clubs in the world. And was then managed for virtually his entire career by, arguably, the most successful manager in football history. While in his spare time accumulated over 60 England Caps. Scholes can’t be casually discounted from being one of the best candidates ‘ever’ for possessing the insight, experience and mindset to actually becoming an outstanding coach right through the whole coaching system of ‘any’ club. By pure coincidence it now appears that serious investment is being considered into the club. Just saying like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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League one forever Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: While eagerly looking forward to Saturday I can’t help but ponder. A local retired player and Latics fan, who was coached as a youth by, arguably, the best youth coach of his era. Then went onto become, arguably, one of the best mid-fielders of his era for, arguably, one of the biggest clubs in the world. And was then managed for virtually his entire career by, arguably, the most successful manager in football history. While in his spare time accumulated over 60 England Caps. Scholes can’t be casually discounted from being one of the best candidates ‘ever’ for possessing the insight, experience and mindset to actually becoming an outstanding coach right through the whole coaching system of ‘any’ club. By pure coincidence it now appears that serious investment is being considered into the club. Just saying like. Mmmmm. I couldn’t get my head around why Scholes would want the job. No money/ erratic owner etc etc. However if he had whisper of potential investment, it would make a lot more sense. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, mikeroyboy said: While eagerly looking forward to Saturday I can’t help but ponder. A local retired player and Latics fan, who was coached as a youth by, arguably, the best youth coach of his era. Then went onto become, arguably, one of the best mid-fielders of his era for, arguably, one of the biggest clubs in the world. And was then managed for virtually his entire career by, arguably, the most successful manager in football history. While in his spare time accumulated over 60 England Caps. Scholes can’t be casually discounted from being one of the best candidates ‘ever’ for possessing the insight, experience and mindset to actually becoming an outstanding coach right through the whole coaching system of ‘any’ club. By pure coincidence it now appears that serious investment is being considered into the club. Just saying like. I just don’t understand why someone would pay £6m for the land and North Stand unless they were connected to the club and safeguarding our future. Am I right in thinking that the land cannot be developed for anything other than the football club without our authority until 2031? If so, why buy to develop because you’d need to relocate the club or compensate us to relocate. Even if that happened, I doubt there’s £6m available even after profiting from housing plus funding that relocation. Even a Tesco building an Extra there couldn’t afford to pay us off the move. This means someone is buying to then hopefully sell back to the club, at a profit, when we can afford it. Unless AL finds the cash personally or finds someone willing to waste over £6m, we cannot afford to buy it back until we’ve reached the Premier League. There is one other scenario; AL/owner, sick of the condition of the three stands, decides to relocate the club. This therefore allows the land owner to develop without having to compensate the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I wouldn’t say this is Abdallah trying to buy, more like people trying to oust Abdallah. This would be the first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: I wouldn’t say this is Abdallah trying to buy, more like people trying to oust Abdallah. This would be the first step. And ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: And ridiculous We’ll see won’t we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4it Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Midsblue said: I just don’t understand why someone would pay £6m for the land and North Stand unless they were connected to the club and safeguarding our future. Am I right in thinking that the land cannot be developed for anything other than the football club without our authority until 2031? If so, why buy to develop because you’d need to relocate the club or compensate us to relocate. Even if that happened, I doubt there’s £6m available even after profiting from housing plus funding that relocation. Even a Tesco building an Extra there couldn’t afford to pay us off the move. This means someone is buying to then hopefully sell back to the club, at a profit, when we can afford it. Unless AL finds the cash personally or finds someone willing to waste over £6m, we cannot afford to buy it back until we’ve reached the Premier League. There is one other scenario; AL/owner, sick of the condition of the three stands, decides to relocate the club. This therefore allows the land owner to develop without having to compensate the club. Planned permission was previously given to build house (including afford houses / accommodation for nurses) on the land surrounding the ground (car park etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, mad4it said: Planned permission was previously given to build house (including afford houses / accommodation for nurses) on the land surrounding the ground (car park etc) You think there's enough land there to justify the £6 million + price tag and everything that goes with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Midsblue said: I just don’t understand why someone would pay £6m for the land and North Stand unless they were connected to the club and safeguarding our future. Am I right in thinking that the land cannot be developed for anything other than the football club without our authority until 2031? If so, why buy to develop because you’d need to relocate the club or compensate us to relocate. Even if that happened, I doubt there’s £6m available even after profiting from housing plus funding that relocation. Even a Tesco building an Extra there couldn’t afford to pay us off the move. This means someone is buying to then hopefully sell back to the club, at a profit, when we can afford it. Unless AL finds the cash personally or finds someone willing to waste over £6m, we cannot afford to buy it back until we’ve reached the Premier League. There is one other scenario; AL/owner, sick of the condition of the three stands, decides to relocate the club. This therefore allows the land owner to develop without having to compensate the club. I don’t pretend, never have done, to be knowledgeable enough on the clubs long standing and present set up to debate it coherently. As fans (the same for all cubs) we depend on a wealthy benefactor/s to support our hobby. We have no meaningful say in how this arranged or carried out. What I do believe I’m knowledgeable about is the most important item of a successful enterprise is its product. We have all seen the media attention created by Paul Schole’s appointment. I have highlighted his undoubted attributes. I now await with interest and antisipation how he mobilises our group of stuttering misfits into a reliable 2pts a game promotion contenders. ‘Whoever’ is is driving the financial bus has made a pretty asstute assessment of what would drive ‘our’ club forward on the pitch in my opinion. Bums on seats is where it starts. Hold tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: You think there's enough land there to justify the £6 million + price tag and everything that goes with it? There might be if Brassbank hadn’t sold some of it, I’m not very clued in on land prices. Land and property value is likely to be affected by Brexit isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Well if nobody can develop the land where the stadium sits until after 2031 then this remains a massive financial millstone around Blitz’s neck. No wonder he’s reappeared and keen to sell it onto some other schmuck. The rent paid by the club annually is probably less than any interest gained if that £6m sat in a high-interest account. I return to my original question; Outside of a fan or the Trust, why would any sane person spend £6m to purchase the land when there’s no realistic investment return for 12 years? A bid, whoever it’s from, I can only see as a good move. We’ve got 12 years to produce a contingency plan to buy it back or relocate the stadium or would be sufficiently compensated if that changes any sooner?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I don't think we should assume it is £6m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, singe said: I don't think we should assume it is £6m. You're happy to assume that the very, very vague news is good news based on fuck all but don't want to "assume" the £6m reported by a so far largely reliable, straight shooting BBC journo is accurate? How does that work? Edited February 15, 2019 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Well if nobody can develop the land where the stadium sits until after 2031 then this remains a massive financial millstone around Blitz’s neck. No wonder he’s reappeared and keen to sell it onto some other schmuck. The rent paid by the club annually is probably less than any interest gained if that £6m sat in a high-interest account. I return to my original question; Outside of a fan or the Trust, why would any sane person spend £6m to purchase the land when there’s no realistic investment return for 12 years? A bid, whoever it’s from, I can only see as a good move. We’ve got 12 years to produce a contingency plan to buy it back or relocate the stadium or would be sufficiently compensated if that changes any sooner?! They wouldn’t..... and it’s part of a bigger plan, by people who care about our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: They wouldn’t..... and it’s part of a bigger plan, by people who care about our club. Noted if it was kickstarted by the fan-led consortium. However, I was led to believe that the fan-led consortium are involved as a result of another bid by parties unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: They wouldn’t..... and it’s part of a bigger plan, by people who care about our club. Go on...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Noted if it was kickstarted by the fan-led consortium. However, I was led to believe that the fan-led consortium are involved as a result of another bid by parties unknown Fan thing is the only show in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Go on...... Don’t know specifics, but I think what has been hinted to me was from someone who would know, just that the group involved have a bigger long term plan. If you owned the land and the stands, what would you want to do next? Edited February 15, 2019 by ghostofcecere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47245347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: Don’t know specifics, but I think what has been hinted to me was from someone who would know, just that the group involved have a bigger long term plan. If you owned the land and the stands, what would you want to do next? Sell the lot for housing and move to Failsworth?...on second thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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