oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) YEAH I NEVER SAID I WAS A SUPPORTER, BLOODY HELL!!!!! No need to shout... I do realise that... You are offering support to them though... I am still waiting to see a proper explanation on how the country needs protecting against becoming a Muslim state... And for a right which is not actually a music award... If you need some clues on what a right is, read the european bill of human rights... Edited October 23, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 FFS. Can't even spell 'racist'! Back to school! it's late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 It doesn’t take the racial origins away from the fact does it? It’s a bit like saying.... The BNP aren't racist because they have a Turk in their party. This silly comparison does not support your claim of an impending(?) Islamic take over of the British Isles. In fact nothing stated on this thread comes anywhere near. Your initial statement has collapsed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 No need to shout... I do realise that... funny thing is oafc0000 I'm actually a very liberal people. I just don’t think White people have the same voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) funny thing is oafc0000 I'm actually a very liberal people. I just don’t think White people have the same voice. Based on what!! ?? The media is mainly white... The top jobs in the country are held by white people.. MPs are mainly white... And its not funny for you to tell me your a very liberal person with the persona your expressing here. Edited October 23, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 This silly comparison does not support your claim of an impending(?) Islamic take over of the British Isles. In fact nothing stated on this thread comes anywhere near. Your initial statement has collapsed. I haven't got any evidence. I said at the beginning I don't want the country becoming a Muslim state. You asked me why it would, and all I can say is I don't think White people's beliefs and traditions are took into consideration. It's political correctness gone mad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Jack straw - Don't make me sick. His dad a war objector whilst other from all races, creeds, and colour fought. His brother done for indecent assualt on a 16 year old girl, and a son caught handing cannabis out to undercover journalists. And to top it off ripping off his expenses like the rest of them. If we're going to quote random and irrelevant crimes, I have a list for you: Fraud; Extortion; Assault; Gang rape; Armed robbery. The link? Just a few of the crimes that BNP activists in Oldham have been convicted of. But as I say, entirely irrelevant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I haven't got any evidence. I said at the beginning I don't want the country becoming a Muslim state. You asked me why it would, and all I can say is I don't think White people's beliefs and traditions are took into consideration. It's political correctness gone mad! :lol: :lol: :lol: So you have an opinion which is based on nothing other an irrational fear ? And the you come out with the usual "its PC gone mad"... A lot of people out there have some real good points to make on freedom of speech, immigration, racial intergration etc etc... You clearly are not one of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 If we're going to quote random and irrelevant crimes, I have a list for you: Fraud; Extortion; Assault; Gang rape; Armed robbery. The link? Just a few of the crimes that BNP activists in Oldham have been convicted of. But as I say, entirely irrelevant... Smooth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Based on what!! ?? The media is mainly white... The top jobs in the country are held by white people.. MPs are mainly white... And its not funny for you to tell me your a very liberal person with the persona your expressing here. don't take things so serious....... I haven't said anything negative we just have different views on a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) :lol: :lol: :lol: So you have an opinion which is based on nothing other an irrational fear ? And the you come out with the usual "its PC gone mad"... A lot of people out there have some real good points to make on freedom of speech, immigration, racial intergration etc etc... You clearly are not one of them... that was said tongue in cheek....... where have been your good points?????? Edited October 23, 2009 by bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 don't take things so serious....... I haven't said anything negative we just have different views on a few things. I beg to differ... And I take threat of people blindly voting for the far right as a VERY serious issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I missed this... What rights have others got which white people do not have ? Not to side with the BNP, but the obscene positive discrimination laws. As a heterosexual, white, male of reasonable youth I am the most discriminated against person in Britain at the moment. I don't think that Griffin will back me up (or anyone else for that matter) but I understand why some people think they will. This has gone all Trisha on here again. You've stopped listening to the problem and trying to find a solution. It's very easy to point the finger at those under the thumb*. *Alright, technically it's pretty hard, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 that was said tongue in cheek....... where have been your good points?????? What would you like to know my view on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Not to side with the BNP, but the obscene positive discrimination laws. In my eyes discrimination is wrong.... In all its forms so I agree.. As a heterosexual, white, male of reasonable youth I am the most discriminated against person in Britain at the moment. With ALL due respect...thats a crock of :censored: This has gone all Trisha on here again. You've stopped listening to the problem and trying to find a solution. It's very easy to point the finger at those under the thumb*. *Alright, technically it's pretty hard, but... If someone can start making good points...like you did with the positive discrimination issue...then maybe we could get beyond the trisha level.... But bowl keeps posting vile based on no evidence It needs to be challenged... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) What would you like to know my view on ? Oooo, positive discrimination. The one where the government could force you to interview a person that was completely unqualified because they are black, homosexual, old, or just plain not me. Is that good? Ids there anyone of the parties disagreeing with this? NB. I guess you've done your stuff on the previous post. Edited October 24, 2009 by OldhamSheridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I beg to differ... And I take threat of people blindly voting for the far right as a VERY serious issue... I don't vote..... so why is that aimed at me?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Oooo, positive discrimination. The one where the government could force you to interview a person that was completely unqualified because they are black, homosexual, old, or just plain not me. Is that good? Ids there anyone of the parties disagreeing with this? Totally and utterly against it... Discrimination is wrong in all it forms... Next ? Edited October 24, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I agree with the BNP about not wanting the country to turn into a Muslim state (which it will under the current Labour government). I haven't got any evidence. I said at the beginning I don't want the country becoming a Muslim state. You asked me why it would, and all I can say is I don't think White people's beliefs and traditions are took into consideration. It's political correctness gone mad! We get that you don't want it to, but you've failed, 120 posts on, to explain why you think the country will turn into a Muslim state under the current Labour government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 With ALL due respect...thats a crock of :censored: That I disagree with. In my job I was put behind anyone of a minority.They were given an automatic interview* whilst i had to prove myself. How is that fair? As I said, the people voting for BNP aren't all idiots. They have a voice that needs hearing. The sooner people stop rejecting them as 'just racists' the sooner this country will get on its feet. *This is in local government, so pretty official as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Totally and utterly against it... Discrimination is wrong in all it forms... Next ? Even, for example, when attempting to recruit for a police force that would be much more successful in policing its area if it better mirrored the racial mix in that area? Edited October 24, 2009 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 We get that you don't want it to, but you've failed, 120 posts on, to explain why you think the country will turn into a Muslim state under the current Labour government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 The one where the government could force you to interview a person that was completely unqualified because they are black, homosexual, old, or just plain not me. Is that good? Ids there anyone of the parties disagreeing with this? That isn't how positive discrimination policies work. The policy is to guarantee an interview for people who are from an under-represented minority, who are qualified for the job/meet the person specification. I could be wrong but i think it's more commonly used for disabled people rather than for ethnic minorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) That I disagree with. In my job I was put behind anyone of a minority.They were given an automatic interview* whilst i had to prove myself. How is that fair? As I said, the people voting for BNP aren't all idiots. They have a voice that needs hearing. The sooner people stop rejecting them as 'just racists' the sooner this country will get on its feet. *This is in local government, so pretty official as such. So you think positive discrimination is a problem for the vast majority of people ? I think you will find it effects a very small amount of people.... It rarely found outside of the public sector.. It is an issue but its not that BIG of an issue although I accept your personal perspective might be different than reality... It hardly makes you the most discriminated section of society... Edited October 24, 2009 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Totally and utterly against it... Discrimination is wrong in all it forms... Next ? Personally I quite like a bit of discrimination I'm not one for wanting to see women urinate in public so I like how most councils discriminate as to which toilets are which. I know I'm being a bit faceious but so was the person who told me that statement and he is/was a Professor of Sociology at Durham uni- so knows a thing or two about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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