boundaryblue80 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Isn't it about time we had some? How much should we know? How secure is our future...with a "loan" outstanding? This isn't so much a Tom Eaves post (or I would have put it in that post) but an overall topic about a severe lack of transparency we're getting. Especially regarding the leaving of the main investors of the club...why are certain "Elected" people not asking some serious questions. I'll copy my comment in tonights Chron rather than re-hash it.... "....hiding a fee that Bolton haven't been too quiet about is again the same old "clear as mud" policy from a Boardroom that came in promising transparency. More importantly though, why is nobody asking about this loan to the departed Two Amigos? How many "undisclosed fees", TV appearance monies & cup runs will pay them off? More so, when this loan is paid off, who owns what? Will Corney and Directors own the lot? Where would the Micah money go if he was sold tomorrow & we had (for example) £2m coming our way? Into this "undisclosed" black hole? Would we be free from this loan to Blitz and Gazal? When it's paid off, if Failsworth still hasn't happened, will the rest of BP land from Brassbank be transferred back to OAFC? Nobody's asking the real questions...while the clear as mud policy lingers on & directors leave!" I highlight the Richards scenario as many people keep saying that they want him sold so we are a little bit more flush...but I don't see a penny staying in OAFC. I'd imagine it would go to paying off this loan....As things stand, we owe a non-specified amount, to some people who no longer run the club....doesn't fill me with any confidence at all. So when we question the fee received today...I'd rather know where it's going to go more than what the fee is (although I wouldn't mind knowing that either.) Is it towards next seasons budget? Towards the Failsworth fund (as T2A that have left won't be chipping in now)? The youth set-up? This loan to T2A? At what point will we have paid off what we rightly owe T2A and turn into being asset stripped without realising it? Who's getting to the answers? Edited August 12, 2010 by boundaryblue80 Quote
BigfinLatic Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Excellent post. Barry? I seriously doubt Barry will see a penny of it. Sorry... carry on... Quote
opinions4u Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 I seriously doubt Barry will see a penny of it. Sorry... carry on... Quote
HarryBosch Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) This type of bollocks is what I hate most about post euro-96 football Edited August 12, 2010 by HarryBosch Quote
GlossopLatic Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 This type of bollocks is what I hate most about post euro-96 football Why whats wrong with the questions that hes asking they are all very valid If people want the fans to dip into their pockets for tickets, merchandise, Playershareschemes then they want to know where that money goes If Barry wants more backing from the fans these are the questions he should be tackling. Quote
HarryBosch Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Why whats wrong with the questions that hes asking they are all very valid If people want the fans to dip into their pockets for tickets, merchandise, Playershareschemes then they want to know where that money goes If Barry wants more backing from the fans these are the questions he should be tackling. i don't know, i stopped reading at "transparency" give us our game back Quote
RobOAFC Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Isn't it about time we had some? How much should we know? How secure is our future...with a "loan" outstanding? This isn't so much a Tom Eaves post (or I would have put it in that post) but an overall topic about a severe lack of transparency we're getting. Especially regarding the leaving of the main investors of the club...why are certain "Elected" people not asking some serious questions. I'll copy my comment in tonights Chron rather than re-hash it.... "....hiding a fee that Bolton haven't been too quiet about is ago the same old "clear as mud" policy from a Boardroom that came in promising transparency. More importantly though, why is nobody asking about this loan to the departed Two Amigos? How many "undisclosed fees", TV appearance monies & cup runs will pay them off? More so, when this loan is paid off, who owns what? Will Corney and Directors own the lot? Where would the Micah money go if he was sold tomorrow & we had (for example) £2m coming our way? Into this "undisclosed" black hole? Would we be free from this loan to Blitz and Gazal? When it's paid off, if Failsworth still hasn't happened, will the rest of BP land from Brassbank be transferred back to OAFC? Nobody's asking the real questions...while the clear as mud policy lingers on & directors leave!" I highlight the Richards scenario as many people keep saying that they want him sold so we are a little bit more flush...but I don't see a penny staying in OAFC. I'd imagine it would go to paying off this loan....As things stand, we owe a non-specified amount, to some people who no longer run the club....doesn't fill me with any confidence at all. So when we question the fee received today...I'd rather know where it's going to go more than what the fee is (although I wouldn't mind knowing that either.) Is it towards next seasons budget? Towards the Failsworth fund (as T2A that have left won't be chipping in now)? The youth set-up? This loan to T2A? At what point will we have paid off what we rightly owe T2A and turn into being asset stripped without realising it? Who's getting to the answers? +1. Quote
steveoafc Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Isn't it about time we had some? How much should we know? How secure is our future...with a "loan" outstanding? This isn't so much a Tom Eaves post (or I would have put it in that post) but an overall topic about a severe lack of transparency we're getting. Especially regarding the leaving of the main investors of the club...why are certain "Elected" people not asking some serious questions. I'll copy my comment in tonights Chron rather than re-hash it.... "....hiding a fee that Bolton haven't been too quiet about is ago the same old "clear as mud" policy from a Boardroom that came in promising transparency. More importantly though, why is nobody asking about this loan to the departed Two Amigos? How many "undisclosed fees", TV appearance monies & cup runs will pay them off? More so, when this loan is paid off, who owns what? Will Corney and Directors own the lot? Where would the Micah money go if he was sold tomorrow & we had (for example) £2m coming our way? Into this "undisclosed" black hole? Would we be free from this loan to Blitz and Gazal? When it's paid off, if Failsworth still hasn't happened, will the rest of BP land from Brassbank be transferred back to OAFC? Nobody's asking the real questions...while the clear as mud policy lingers on & directors leave!" I highlight the Richards scenario as many people keep saying that they want him sold so we are a little bit more flush...but I don't see a penny staying in OAFC. I'd imagine it would go to paying off this loan....As things stand, we owe a non-specified amount, to some people who no longer run the club....doesn't fill me with any confidence at all. So when we question the fee received today...I'd rather know where it's going to go more than what the fee is (although I wouldn't mind knowing that either.) Is it towards next seasons budget? Towards the Failsworth fund (as T2A that have left won't be chipping in now)? The youth set-up? This loan to T2A? At what point will we have paid off what we rightly owe T2A and turn into being asset stripped without realising it? Who's getting to the answers? A cracking post. The club tell us we're all in it together.....but only when it suits it seems sometimes. It's an interesting debate.....how much should the fans know? Quote
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 i don't know, i stopped reading at "transparency" give us our game back Yeah. Things could be worse, Clubcall (0898 12 11 42... 55p a minute) could be the only way of getting any news out of the club. Quote
LaticMark Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 i don't know, i stopped reading at "transparency" give us our game back Balls? Quote
HarryBosch Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Yeah. Things could be worse, Clubcall (0898 12 11 42... 55p a minute) could be the only way of getting any news out of the club. and we still only ever knew what they wanted us to know - and rightly so Quote
BP1960 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 and we still only ever knew what they wanted us to know - and rightly so Whens the clubs annual balance sheet sheet due ?....that could make interesting reading. Quote
boundaryblue80 Posted August 12, 2010 Author Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Yeah. Things could be worse, Clubcall (0898 12 11 42... 55p a minute) could be the only way of getting any news out of the club. What's that our lot get labelled with?....something about living in the past... Speaking of which, around the time that number was all the info we could get...what was happening to the club? That's right...down, down, deeper and down... We should use that number the next time a bucket needs shaking... Edited August 12, 2010 by boundaryblue80 Quote
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 What's that our lot get labelled with?....something about living in the past... What time does the Barlows executive coach leave for West Brom from Latique on Saturday? Anyone know? Quote
slurms mckenzie Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 Yeah. Things could be worse, Clubcall (0898 12 11 42... 55p a minute) could be the only way of getting any news out of the club. Sad thing is, I used to ring it, much to the annoyance of my parents Quote
oldhamains Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 It all started with a night at the races Quote
downender2 Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 This type of bollocks is what I hate most about post euro-96 football correctomundo Quote
Lags Posted August 12, 2010 Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Isn't it about time we had some? How much should we know? How secure is our future...with a "loan" outstanding? This isn't so much a Tom Eaves post (or I would have put it in that post) but an overall topic about a severe lack of transparency we're getting. Especially regarding the leaving of the main investors of the club...why are certain "Elected" people not asking some serious questions. I'll copy my comment in tonights Chron rather than re-hash it.... "....hiding a fee that Bolton haven't been too quiet about is ago the same old "clear as mud" policy from a Boardroom that came in promising transparency. More importantly though, why is nobody asking about this loan to the departed Two Amigos? How many "undisclosed fees", TV appearance monies & cup runs will pay them off? More so, when this loan is paid off, who owns what? Will Corney and Directors own the lot? Where would the Micah money go if he was sold tomorrow & we had (for example) £2m coming our way? Into this "undisclosed" black hole? Would we be free from this loan to Blitz and Gazal? When it's paid off, if Failsworth still hasn't happened, will the rest of BP land from Brassbank be transferred back to OAFC? Nobody's asking the real questions...while the clear as mud policy lingers on & directors leave!" I highlight the Richards scenario as many people keep saying that they want him sold so we are a little bit more flush...but I don't see a penny staying in OAFC. I'd imagine it would go to paying off this loan....As things stand, we owe a non-specified amount, to some people who no longer run the club....doesn't fill me with any confidence at all. So when we question the fee received today...I'd rather know where it's going to go more than what the fee is (although I wouldn't mind knowing that either.) Is it towards next seasons budget? Towards the Failsworth fund (as T2A that have left won't be chipping in now)? The youth set-up? This loan to T2A? At what point will we have paid off what we rightly owe T2A and turn into being asset stripped without realising it? Who's getting to the answers? Bang on the money questions that should now be searched out instead of head in the sand stuff. Today we are sailing in a boat with holes in rough waters....but sailing. That will not continue and this boat is in peril. Edited August 12, 2010 by Lags Quote
drphibes Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Maybe Barry Owen could look into this for us all ? I for one am more interested in how much we got for Eaves and where the cash is going than hearing quotes about Hughesy who is no longer with us. Quote
ghostofcecere Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Great post BB80...... These are EXACTLY the type of issues our representative on the board should be informing us about rather than entering into petty squabbles with other members. Over to you Barry...... Quote
LaticNik Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 What time does the Barlows executive coach leave for West Brom from Latique on Saturday? Anyone know? Not sure but save us a seat in non-smoking. Cheers pal. Our first glimpse of Asa Hartford, how exciting. E4e BOING Quote
singe Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Crikey we have had some rubbish posted this week, but using Club Call as a stick to beat with (not you Frankly , I know) is defiantely Mannion-esque. Quote
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Whens the clubs annual balance sheet sheet due ?....that could make interesting reading. have you ever considered getting out more? Quote
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