NewBlue Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Anybody listening to TalkSport? John Helm came on discussing Thatcher's impact on sport and talked about the Valley Parade fire. He then mentioned that he'd come to BP a few weeks ago and was 'horrified' by the state of our main stand and said that it is in a state as bad as the Bradford stand that caught fire that day. Comparing it to some of the death traps of the 1950's and beyond. If outsiders with a large knowledge of the game and first-hand experiences of such tragedies makes such comments it gives some perspective. Maybe Corney thinks the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Anybody listening to TalkSport? John Helm came on discussing Thatcher's impact on sport and talked about the Valley Parade fire. He then mentioned that he'd come to BP a few weeks ago and was 'horrified' by the state of our main stand and said that it is in a state as bad as the Bradford stand that caught fire that day. Comparing it to some of the death traps of the 1950's and beyond. If outsiders with a large knowledge of the game and first-hand experiences of such tragedies makes such comments it gives some perspective. Maybe Corney thinks the same way. The Bradford fire was accumulated litter beneath the terracing igniting. The back of the Chaddy used to be like that, wooden terracing with gaps in between. I can't see how that applies to the main stand, decrepit as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The Bradford fire was accumulated litter beneath the terracing igniting. The back of the Chaddy used to be like that, wooden terracing with gaps in between. I can't see how that applies to the main stand, decrepit as it is. It is frightening to think how much litter was under the Chaddy wooden standing area, as a kid I remember older kids dropping cigs or lit matches down there to try and ignite it. We were so ignorant of what might happen, and the Bradford fire will remain with me forever. Those poor people trapped by the inferno within minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The Bradford fire was accumulated litter beneath the terracing igniting. The back of the Chaddy used to be like that, wooden terracing with gaps in between. I can't see how that applies to the main stand, decrepit as it is. It's hard enough going for a piss in the main stand...if there was a fire in the offices or players lounge area during the game which spread up to the stand it would be pandemonium. I think the stand is a potential death trap and can't understand how it gets a safety certificate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It's hard enough going for a piss in the main stand...if there was a fire in the offices or players lounge area during the game which spread up to the stand it would be pandemonium. I think the stand is a potential death trap and can't understand how it gets a safety certificate! I agree. I was shocked when I went into the upper for the first time in many years the other week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I agree. I was shocked when I went into the upper for the first time in many years the other week Plenty of escape routes, I think there are more things to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) It's hard enough going for a piss in the main stand...if there was a fire in the offices or players lounge area during the game which spread up to the stand it would be pandemonium. I think the stand is a potential death trap and can't understand how it gets a safety certificate! I would guess very little flammable material. The worst I can thing of is 6 pies catching fire, and everyone could get away from that one way or another. It would have been a different story in the old Chaddy, most footballs fans can look at Bradford and think themselves lucky Edited April 8, 2013 by leeslover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I would guess very little flammable material. The worst I can thing of is 6 pies catching fire, and everyone could get away from that one way or another. It would have been a different story in the old Chaddy, most footballs fans can look at Bradford and think themselves lucky There are loads of wooden seats aren't there? I wouldn't want to get stuck in the bar/bookie/tea bar area at the top. I've only ever felt really unsafe once in a football ground; at The Dell in the Littlewoods semi-final - but I had misgivings up there at the Pompey game. I wouldn't go in there with a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Plenty of escape routes, I think there are more things to worry about. There are no horizontal gangways and it would be a bloody free for all...certainly no orderly evacuation for sure. Maybe if you're sat in the wings or the front few rows but if you're stuck in the middle or at the back you would be in serious trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 There are loads of wooden seats aren't there? I wouldn't want to get stuck in the bar/bookie/tea bar area at the top. I've only ever felt really unsafe once in a football ground; at The Dell in the Littlewoods semi quarter-final - but I had misgivings up there at the Pompey game. I wouldn't go in there with a kid. FTFY, Yes it was scary in there. I felt sorry for the ones who went all that way on a Wednesday night and didn't get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The land at Failsworth when "Bought" back by OMBC was worth nowhere near £5,000,000. But the sum was paid because OMBC had well and truly done Latics over with the Failsworth project, and were compensating OAFC somewhat for the debacle. Source: Many friends in the property industry who worked on Oldham Arena and Failsworth. So anything but a sweetener or overpayment then? Compensation seems to be the word you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 There are loads of wooden seats aren't there? I wouldn't want to get stuck in the bar/bookie/tea bar area at the top. I've only ever felt really unsafe once in a football ground; at The Dell in the Littlewoods semi-final - but I had misgivings up there at the Pompey game. I wouldn't go in there with a kid. If there was a fire in the main stand, being at the tea bar at the Rocky side wouldn't be the worse place. Go down to the fire escape and down towards the paddock. Big wide aisle too. There is a fair bit of footage of the Bradford fire on You Tube, best escape route was on to the pitch, unless you have a strong constitution Id advise not looking at it though. Same applies to our main stand. The people with the worst escape route are the directors and other posh seats, down into a bar in a fire no thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) If there was a fire in the main stand, being at the tea bar at the Rocky side wouldn't be the worse place. Go down to the fire escape and down towards the paddock. Big wide aisle too. i meant the one right at the back, inside just to the right of centre as you look at it Edited April 8, 2013 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 i meant the one right at the back, inside just to the right of centre as you look at it Ah right the one underneath the seats, yeah wouldn't want to be there, unless there is a hidden fire escape somewhere. Best bet might be to do the windows in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 FTFY, Yes it was scary in there. I felt sorry for the ones who went all that way on a Wednesday night and didn't get in. That was me and 2 of my mates, the coppers just said "go home" as though we lived round the corner. Spent the 1st half trying to get in anyway we could, seem to remember they herded a load of Latics fans into the pub at the back of the ground, and it then kicked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_balls Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So anything but a sweetener or overpayment then? Compensation seems to be the word you are looking for. Yeah fair point, but going back to my orignal point, we have the cash for a new Broadway Stand because of this compensation, where is the cash coming from for a new Main Stand and a new Chaddy End? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Yeah fair point, but going back to my orignal point, we have the cash for a new Broadway Stand because of this compensation, where is the cash coming from for a new Main Stand and a new Chaddy End? TTA paid, apparently £3.5m for the Lancaster Club. The council paid £5.0m to buy it off them. There will be other costs involved in buying and selling. While the "profit" may well be allocated to Latics, it's not Oldham Athletic's money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 What time do we have to be there tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysinblue Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The stand has been approved - excellent news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Get in!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 has it really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoytonLatics Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 But the boat carying the bits from France has just sunk off the coast of Dover....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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