NewBlue Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Kelly said that's the system he wants to play Is that two wing backs - if so, we will need a new right back - or two wingers and an incredibly attacking formation? I don't know if that suits the current squad so maybe we'll be changing a few players about. Quote
SavageTheBeast Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I've not seen three at the back work for any club. Look at United earlier on in the season Quote
dec666 Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Mills can be an excellent wing back I'm sure. I think we all saw Brian Wilson's ability in that position against Yeovil though and I wouldn't be convinced with Brown. Quote
dec666 Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I've not seen three at the back work for any club. Look at United earlier on in the season Swindon. Quote
eyres_28 Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I've not seen three at the back work for any club. Look at United earlier on in the season Bristol City Quote
NewBlue Posted May 11, 2015 Author Posted May 11, 2015 Ball-playing centre back in the middle of the back 3 - Wilson or Dieng? Elokobi and somebody else either side of the 3. Mills as a winger/wing back? Where does that leave Forte? Probably going to need a new right-wing back, or will we be using Poleon? Winchester behind Murphy and/or Turner? Jones and Kelly holding midfielders? Quote
Lee Sinnott Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I went to City yesterday and saw QPR give a perfect lesson in how not to play with three at the back... Quote
RobOAFC Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Possibility of Kelly being the CB in the middle of the three? Winchester and Jones ahead of him and allows him to either step up into midfield/defence depending on how the game is going? Dieng also suited to that role. Mills can do the LWB/LM role - someone similar needed for right side. Move Philli up top with Poleon and bring someone in for the number 10 role? That being based on the current squad and Forte being injured... Quote
JoeP Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Hopefully he'll have more than one system in mind.... Quote
Kusunga_Is_God Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Joel bryan showed how the LWB can work for bristol Quote
josh_latics Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 If he wants to play this, i think we need at the very least: a centre half, a right wingback, a number 10, and a centre forward. Quote
NewBlue Posted May 11, 2015 Author Posted May 11, 2015 Winchester is going to be the number 10, surely. The centre midfield 3 have to be Kelly, Jones and Winchester. But yeah, another centre back will be crucial, as will a right wing-back - if that's not Poleon - and a striker, plus probably a few bolsters to the squad. That's not too ambitious you've got to say about the recruitment side. Transmitting and drilling his vision of this formation to the players will prove to be the biggest factor you'd have thought as to how successful we'll be. Quote
leeslover Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Fast wingers, a schemer at 10 and two up front has to mean at least one unit to come in up front? Quote
RobOAFC Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Joel bryan showed how the LWB can work for bristol Read that as Joel Byrom initially! Quote
sjk2008 Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Given we've just taken the option of a further year on Forte, I'm interested to see how he would fit into a 3-4-1-2. He's shown this season that he's better of the left rather than up top, but he's in no way, shape or form a wing back. Unless we've just taken the option so we can perhaps get a nominal fee for him, but that makes little sense to me considering no club will want to take a risk on someone with the knees he has, for a significant enough fee to warrant us paying him the wages until that day was to arrive. I don't want Lockwood in the starting line up, and I still have reservations on Elokobi. Dieng, I suppose, is a ball playing option from the back, but I imagine Wilson would get the nod over him for that position. Joel Coleman New Signing - James Wilson - George Elokobi New Signing - Liam Kelly - Mike Jones - Joseph Mills Carl Winchester Dominic Poleon - Rhys Turner I know we have Forte as a forward option, but I think we're short of a genuine striker and wouldn't be at all confident that a Poleon/Turner partnership could muster 30+ goals between them, despite their upturn in form in the latter parts of this season. Brown has been offered a new contract, but IMO he's not good enough to be a RWB/RM - he's tidy enough defensively, but fairly average going forward. A bit like Brian Wilson, who I feel may be a benchwarmer next season if we do stick with this 3-4-1-2. Think we need a CB (possibly 2), RWB (or defensively capable RM), another CM (or if we can find that elusive #10, then Winiesta can play in CM too) and at least 1 striker of genuine quality, however hard that is to find. Should be an interesting summer... Edited May 11, 2015 by sjk2008 Quote
oafc-latics Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Think Brown could do a job at RWB, he likes getting forward and is often caught out in defence, so pushing him a bit further up might work. He'd be a decent back up if Kelly wanted to get a new player in. Is Brian Wilson here for another year? Quote
cardiffexile Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 With the current squad i would go with Coleman Dieng elokobi wilson Poleon Jones Kelly forte Winchester Turner philli Away games change Poleon for wilson and forte for mills Quote
daniel Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Ive seen a lot of people say connor brown is decent defensively and poor going forward, i disagree and think the opposite, i actually think hes very good going forward, a bit of an headless chicken perhaps but i enjoy watching him attack, granted hes not our best player but i love his optimism and for a little guy he aint no pushover. Quote
GlossopLatic Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Perhaps with Fortes injury record we may see him coming off the bench for the last 20-30 mins against teams rather than starting. That might get the best out of him. Quote
josh_latics Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Poleon should not be anywhere near a wing-back role.... Quote
NewBlue Posted May 11, 2015 Author Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) God we really need some strikers. If this formation includes wing-backs rather than wingers we may have a surplus of strikers. If he sees Forte and Poleon as forwards (which they're not), as well as Turner, Murphy and Bove then that's plenty. Although, I would say that is a very one-dimensional strikeforce. No big target man, which should be a priority. Murphy will be miles better than what we've seen so far and Turner has already shown some quality too so I wouldn't be too worried if they were the starting two. Both very injury prone though. Edited May 11, 2015 by NewBlue Quote
Simpo Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 I don't think we'll be giving the wide players as much defensive responsibility as people seem to think, especially at home. It'll be more about the defenders sliding across, plus Liam Kelly coming back to help out. Quote
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