Handsy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Smoke and mirrors fool a lot of people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Really don't think you can blame the Board for this one. They tried and it was him who rejected, not a lot we can do. We will never know how close we were if he has now decided against us...must have been close if he was ringing players. But for things to fall down with so little time left with a thread bare squad is not ideal... Also how will Bunn or Adams feel knowing they were clearly second choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Really don't think you can blame the Board for this one. They tried and it was him who rejected, not a lot we can do. Maybe so but its :censored: like this that pisses me off..... Negotiations with the club's chosen man continued over the weekend and club officials are confident that an appointment is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 So, I apply for a job that I want, but don't necessarily need. My prospective employers make me the best offer they can within their budget restraints. I want more than they are offering/able to afford. I say "Thank you very much, but I'm not taking up the offer". That's their fault? I give up. Cue the "SC should give him/players/tea lady more money to work with. Simple, eh? Oh, if only it were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Alan Nixon says size of back room staff was difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The journalist (Alan Nixon) who seemed in the know from early doors has just tweeted: "Oldham. Evans. Deal fell through over size and cost of backroom staff." Cue fat jokes etc. But strange if that is the case, would have thought that would have been discussed early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Quick question, would you rather the cub had just gone for Bunn/Adams or tried to push the boat out on Evans? Unless there's new money I fail to see how Evans could have managed. Looks to me as if freebies and young loanees are what we will get, so Bunn or similar may be the way forward. Edited June 21, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Normally the final pieces once his wage etc has been discussed between agents and club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) The journalist (Alan Nixon) who seemed in the know from early doors has just tweeted: "Oldham. Evans. Deal fell through over size and cost of backroom staff." Cue fat jokes etc. But strange if that is the case, would have thought that would have been discussed early on. Maybe Evans' deal was discussed first. Once that was settled, Evans said what backroom staff he wanted and we couldn't run to it. All speculation, innit. Edit: I think adamoafc and I had the same idea at the same time Edited June 21, 2016 by Bristolatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) It was always a bit too good to be true though...like when you are chasing that bird that's a bit too fit for you and she gives you a sniff of hope by replying to one text...it always leads to that dilemma of should I send double texts or even worse triple?! OAFC: Hi Steve how are you? fancy discussing the oldham job? STEVE: Hi, I'm good thanks how's you? Ok What's the salary? OAFC: I'm amazing thanks! That's great news!! Well It's two pints of lager and a packet of Crisps a week! 1 hour later OAFC: How does that sound? 2 hours later OAFC: Are you getting my texts Steve? Edited June 21, 2016 by Blue_Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Normally the final pieces once his wage etc has been discussed between agents and club. But if you read some of the other things Nixon has put on twitter, such as having players lined up and the club arranging his accommodation, then how can that all be happening without an agreement over backroom staff? Or at least even a conversation about it to see if they're on the same page. But for it to be a deal breaker would suggest they're miles apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The journalist (Alan Nixon) who seemed in the know from early doors has just tweeted: "Oldham. Evans. Deal fell through over size and cost of backroom staff." Cue fat jokes etc. But strange if that is the case, would have thought that would have been discussed early on. Don't know what to feel! angry, sad or jus accept it because it's latics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 We will never know how close we were if he has now decided against us...must have been close if he was ringing players. But for things to fall down with so little time left with a thread bare squad is not ideal... Also how will Bunn or Adams feel knowing they were clearly second choice Whoever applies. they will know that someone has to be first choice and everyone else falls behind that. So it shouldn't come as a great shock. Wasn't Shirtliff 2nd choice as Shez's assistant? Still took the job, though. And let's be honest, if you know you're in the running with the likes of Evans, I think you'll be fairly surprised if you're chosen ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Whoever applies. they will know that someone has to be first choice and everyone else falls behind that. So it shouldn't come as a great shock. Wasn't Shirtliff 2nd choice as Shez's assistant? Still took the job, though. And let's be honest, if you know you're in the running with the likes of Evans, I think you'll be fairly surprised if you're chosen ahead of him. And Shirtliff did a sterling job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Whoever applies. they will know that someone has to be first choice and everyone else falls behind that. So it shouldn't come as a great shock. Wasn't Shirtliff 2nd choice as Shez's assistant? Still took the job, though. And let's be honest, if you know you're in the running with the likes of Evans, I think you'll be fairly surprised if you're chosen ahead of him. All rational thoughts but we live in a world where emotion exists...I know I would feel a bit of resentment if I was in their shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 And Shirtliff did a sterling job And he's one that's not even considered to be in the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 But if you read some of the other things Nixon has put on twitter, such as having players lined up and the club arranging his accommodation, then how can that all be happening without an agreement over backroom staff? Or at least even a conversation about it to see if they're on the same page. But for it to be a deal breaker would suggest they're miles apart? I think if your thinking you've got a job you start planning especially with pre season around the corner and house would of been part of his wage I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmarko Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Got to laugh the official is reminding us that the fixtures for the coming season are being released in the morning, can I use this opportunity to remind them that its 6 :censored:ing weeks away and we are no nearer to appointing a manager we were told they hoped to have in place by the 13th June, bunch of :censored:ing amateurs. It couldn't possibly be that every single league website gets that article automatically inserted by the people who they are run by (not the club), can't remember who it is? For some-one as mild-mannered as myself to comment on it, really is an indicator of how tedious your desperate incessant mission to have the same go over and over and over and over ......... some time later ........ and over and over and over again really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 All rational thoughts but we live in a world where emotion exists...I know I would feel a bit of resentment if I was in their shoes. I won't argue with that, but I think that with so many managers out of work, you'll grab the opportunity even if you know you're not first choice. In Bunn's case, it's a step up from coaching the yoofs (OK, is Latics really a step up? I'll take that on the chin). Adams didn't quite cut the mustard at Norwich, so it's an opportunity to hit the managerial trail again, second choice or not. Like I said earlier, it's all speculation at the moment, because none of us really know what's going on, do we? We've only got Twatter to work with until the real story comes tumbling out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 We will never know how close we were if he has now decided against us...must have been close if he was ringing players. But for things to fall down with so little time left with a thread bare squad is not ideal... Also how will Bunn or Adams feel knowing they were clearly second choice .......must have been close if he was ringing players. Perhaps the response from his targets made his mind up. We haven't even got the nucleus of a team........How the hell is Frankie Bunn or Neil Adams, with no experience of the division, going to be able to recruit and shape a whole playing squad in six weeks. By the time any appointment is made it will be probably nearer a month. In the situation we now find ourselves, experience will be absolutely vital.....a rookie manager at this stage would be suicidal! Would a rookie be offered the same player budget made available to Evans? I can see this dragging on and on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I really hope we go back after him, I just can't see anyone else being able to re-form the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Statement saying Evans didn't respond to our deadline. Hmmm. We've missed our own by 9 days now! That being said, at least they've come out with something. Edited June 21, 2016 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/statement-managerial-position-update-3148534.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I really hope we go back after him, I just can't see anyone else being able to re-form the team. http://mobile.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/statement-managerial-position-update-3148534.aspx scrap that then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Hi is that Frank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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