NewBlue Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) A stat: Burton Albion have picked up more League 1 points than Latics despite having played 23 games fewer Any more stats to get off our chest before an incredible 2016...? Edited December 29, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelatics Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Just to add again that Lee Johnson has won two games at BP with Barnsley. Holden, Kelly and Dunn have managed two home league wins between them since Johnson left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Just to add again that Lee Johnson has won two games at BP with Barnsley. Holden, Kelly and Dunn have managed two home league wins between them since Johnson left. So including the 2 wins with us in January and February, LJ won double the amount of games at BP in approx. 2 months that Holden, Kelly and Dunn won in 10 months. That's depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinevillawill Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Any more stats to get off our chest before an incredible 2016...? Yep. We're 100% :censored:. Edited December 29, 2015 by pinevillawill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Ched Evans, LJ leaving, Holden appointed, Kelly appointed, New stand not finished, Dunn appointed, 2nd from bottom, 6 league wins all calendar year, Philliskirk now apparently our star player, New stand still not finished. The real depressing thing is that before it gets better, it's gonna get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Ched Evans, LJ leaving, Holden appointed, Kelly appointed, New stand not finished, Dunn appointed, 2nd from bottom, 6 league wins all calendar year, Philliskirk now apparently our star player, New stand still not finished. The real depressing thing is that before it gets better, it's gonna get worse. Somebody should put those words and more to Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Annus :censored:forLaticus. And 2016 could get worse.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 MENOAFC @MENOAFC 1h1 hour ago Here is a list of the worst performing Football League teams in 2015 (via @MarkOHaire). #oafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 MENOAFC @MENOAFC 1h1 hour ago Here is a list of the worst performing Football League teams in 2015 (via @MarkOHaire). #oafc Imagine we didn't have our good start to the year. 7 of those wins came Jan-Mar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Some selected OWTB threads from each month January.. http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46665-oldham-3-notts-county-0/ February http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46767-johnson-to-barnsley/ March http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46918-holden-appointed/ April http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46961-oldham-3-0-rochdale/ May http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47166-attacking-creative-and-attractive-football/ June http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47305-george-green-signs/ July http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46681-fee-agreed-for-dagenhams-rhys-murphy/ August http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47606-oldham-1-fleetwood-0/ September http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47714-ft-oldham-1-peterborough-5/ October http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47824-dunn-made-permanent/ November http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/48001-why-are-we-so-poor-at-home/ December http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/48152-liam-kelly/ Former Players R.I. P. Bob Ledger Colin Whitaker Ian Towers Harry Dowd Dougie Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Some selected OWTB threads from each month January.. http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46665-oldham-3-notts-county-0/ February http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46767-johnson-to-barnsley/ March http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46918-holden-appointed/ April http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46961-oldham-3-0-rochdale/ May http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47166-attacking-creative-and-attractive-football/ June http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47305-george-green-signs/ July http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/46681-fee-agreed-for-dagenhams-rhys-murphy/ August http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47606-oldham-1-fleetwood-0/ September http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47714-ft-oldham-1-peterborough-5/ October http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/47824-dunn-made-permanent/ November http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/48001-why-are-we-so-poor-at-home/ December http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/48152-liam-kelly/ Former Players R.I. P. Bob Ledger Colin Whitaker Ian Towers Harry Dowd Dougie Anderson That Notts County thread is fascinating. How things have gone from being that positive to this negative within the space of a year is hard to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) That Notts County thread is fascinating. How things have gone from being that positive to this negative within the space of a year is hard to take.And it is by an large the same team as now. Decent manager, GK and CB and we could climb away from the relegation spots. Highlight for me was "GK apologising for lack of a shout.." Edited December 30, 2015 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Imagine we didn't have our good start to the year. 7 of those wins came Jan-Mar. Everybody still blaming Dunn then? Of course they are. Not saying he's the saviour at all but the problems at the club started long before he arrived, perhaps Johnson saw it coming? This group of players are individually having poor seasons by their own standards and as a result are not good enough collectively for this league. The balance and chemistry is not working, some out and some in during January may just improve things though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Everybody still blaming Dunn then? Of course they are. Not saying he's the saviour at all but the problems at the club started long before he arrived, perhaps Johnson saw it coming? This group of players are individually having poor seasons by their own standards and as a result are not good enough collectively for this league. The balance and chemistry is not working, some out and some in during January may just improve things though. Can you name a player who has improved under Dunn/Holden/Browns coaching? Its a struggle, the fact so many of an average squad have regressed so badly is even more of a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Probably not but I can see a lot of players being played in the same positions but not meeting their earlier standards this year, that has occurred under Johnson through to Holden, to Kelly and now Dunn. The players can take much of the blame for our current predicament followed by the manager(s) and the board. Edited December 31, 2015 by Stainrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Can you name a player who has improved under Dunn/Holden/Browns coaching? Its a struggle, the fact so many of an average squad have regressed so badly is even more of a concern.Regressed since September? We've been :censored:e for 13 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Probably not but I can see a lot of players being played in the same positions but not meeting their earlier standards this year, that has occurred under Johnson through to Holden, to Kelly and now Dunn. The players can take much of the blame for our current predicament followed by the manager(s) and the board.What I don't get is if they aren't happy with the coaching how does that explain the attitude? Liam Kelly plays with the right attitude, if he doesn't like Dunn then he's going about things the right way - commitment and effort and what's happened? Interest from a team with much better prospects. The rest of them will go on to have careers mid table league one at absolute best. Most probably much lower. I agree with you, I just don't buy that a new manager will come in and suddenly make them consistently produce the form they showed for a few weeks 15 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Regressed since September? We've been :censored:e for 13 months. About the time Holden joined!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Probably not but I can see a lot of players being played in the same positions but not meeting their earlier standards this year, that has occurred under Johnson through to Holden, to Kelly and now Dunn. The players can take much of the blame for our current predicament followed by the manager(s) and the board. The players and the manager can take an equal share of the blame in my eyes, but changing the manager is the thing that's most likely to make a difference for the rest of the season. The board should take most of the blame for this year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 About the time Holden joined!!!!! I'm undecided on this. It does tie in, but are we saying he has so much secret influence on the team that managers can get the sack and yet he still stays on in his job? There's a collective blame to be taken. Personally I don't think it's as simple as Dunn leaving + new manager = success with this team. If we're going to be fair to Dunn he needs to be given the chance to bring in the sort of ambitious, mentally tough players we need. In the few live games I've seen we've had spells of decent football, just missing solidity at the back and confidence going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Everybody still blaming Dunn then? Of course they are. Not saying he's the saviour at all but the problems at the club started long before he arrived, perhaps Johnson saw it coming? This group of players are individually having poor seasons by their own standards and as a result are not good enough collectively for this league. The balance and chemistry is not working, some out and some in during January may just improve things though. I don't think anyone is blaming just Dunn, but he is reponsibile for the results since mid September and despite claiming he could turn it round before Joe Royle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm undecided on this. It does tie in, but are we saying he has so much secret influence on the team that managers can get the sack and yet he still stays on in his job? There's a collective blame to be taken. Personally I don't think it's as simple as Dunn leaving + new manager = success with this team. If we're going to be fair to Dunn he needs to be given the chance to bring in the sort of ambitious, mentally tough players we need. In the few live games I've seen we've had spells of decent football, just missing solidity at the back and confidence going forward. THis for me. We've had 4 managers in that time. Except, Dunn leaving, I think we need an experienced manager, if only because our position is so perilous. I went to Gillingham, I saw the way the players can play for him, I think long term he has a case. I just think time is fast running out and we can't get enough players to save us. And a decent manager would be able to get this lot playing enough to be in a better position we are in, giving a longer time to sort the root of the problems. Look at Johnson (whom I loathe) he came in and lifted the players, and saved us from relegation. That is the sign of a manager with potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 The players and the manager can take an equal share of the blame in my eyes, but changing the manager is the thing that's most likely to make a difference for the rest of the season. It really isn't though... Its just easy than replacing the whole squad and makes everyone feel like they did something.... The reality is you get another inexperienced manager in looking for a break working with zero resources and the same bunch of players. Why don't we just back Dunn and give him some time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It really isn't though... Its just easy than replacing the whole squad and makes everyone feel like they did something.... The reality is you get another inexperienced manager in looking for a break working with zero resources and the same bunch of players. Why don't we just back Dunn and give him some time.... Because we will be relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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