opinions4u Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Why is it not working? Holloway joined just before the Wigan game. 13 points out of 24. Main joined just before first Blackpool game. 12 points out of 21. They've started 4 games together. We've 10 points from 12 in those games. Yeah let's change it... That last stat stands out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 That last stat stands out. And compare to that to the four games that Murphy and Cassidy started together. W0 D1 L3. 1 point out of 12. That's with Murphy scoring in two of them aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Murphy can't control the ball, it bounces off him. He is also incapable of holding up the ball to bring in others. L2 is his level where he can get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I think the Journo is guessing. I know short term loans can usually be terminated but never known long term ones to be able. And found this when looking up on it: https://m.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/3jhko7/recalling_players_from_loans/ Long Term Loan Transfers shall be for a full Playing Season; or from any date prior to 31st August to any date between 1st and 31st January; or from any date between 1st and 31st January (the January transfer window) to the end of the Playing Season. A Player on Long Term Loan may not be recalled, except for a goalkeeper or where the Player is to be transferred permanently by the Club (or club) holding his registered contract. http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/rules-of-the-association/2015-16/038_standardised-rules.ashx Fairly sure they can't and can only affect if a play can play against their parent club. EDIT: Just seen that Curtis arrived on Feb 15th. Hmmmm...plot thickens... 2nd EDIT: Short Term Loans (up to 93 days) - Players other than goalkeepers may not be recalled within the first month, i.e. 28 days, of any loan So it seems he might be able to be recalled. Would be a :censored:-trick if they did but wouldn't be surprised by it. If they recall him and play him then it's fair game. If they recall him and don't play him, it's a :censored: trick but I guess you do what you have to; to survive. We wouldn't like it if one of our players was contributing to a relegation rivals success at our expense and if that was the case most fans would want us to recall said player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Main and Holloway first half last night were OK - second half much better. When you are 1-0 up and clear the ball to them, I have a high degree of confidence that it isn't coming back in the next 5 seconds. I wish our midfield had more ambition at times - didn't get forward quickly enough often enough last night for me. With the front twos ability to retain possession we should have more confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardOafc Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Main and Holloway first half last night were OK - second half much better. When you are 1-0 up and clear the ball to them, I have a high degree of confidence that it isn't coming back in the next 5 seconds. I wish our midfield had more ambition at times - didn't get forward quickly enough often enough last night for me. With the front twos ability to retain possession we should have more confidence in the first half our midfield stood off there number 8 (potts) allowing him time to pass the ball about, in the second half we were much tighter on him allowing him no time,as a result he faded badly out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Main and Holloway first half last night were OK - second half much better. When you are 1-0 up and clear the ball to them, I have a high degree of confidence that it isn't coming back in the next 5 seconds. I wish our midfield had more ambition at times - didn't get forward quickly enough often enough last night for me. With the front twos ability to retain possession we should have more confidence Spot on. There was several times last night where the ball was sent up to Hoolway and Main and they managed to hold it up, only to find themselves surrounded by 6 Blackpool players and no support from our midfield. I Don't think our lack of goals is due to the strikers being poor finishers. We don't actually create many chances and I think that's because we don't get enough men forward when we have the ball. Probably a legacy of the defensive mindset of the first half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny513 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Not disputing that Main and Holloway have improved us, Main reminds me of Warne, never gives the ball up and Holloway is what Cassidy should've been. Playing them up front together isn't working though and won't cos their qualities don't include bagging the goals we'll need to stay up and ultimately that's what is going to cost us. But playing with Murphy is the equivalent of playing with 10 men. He offers nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 They may not be a a pop group, but were most Instrumental in tonights win, let's hope they can remain on song against Rochdale on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 From the look of him am pretty sure Palmer was the original drummer for Oasis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 From the look of him am pretty sure Palmer was the original drummer for OasisNah, Sam Gamgees all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Main played too far away from Holloway on Tuesday. I can see him being a great option out left. Holloway needs a smart partner up top. Main missed many of the knock downs etc Holloway won or caused. Both effective but can't see them working together well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Main played too far away from Holloway on Tuesday. I can see him being a great option out left. Holloway needs a smart partner up top. Main missed many of the knock downs etc Holloway won or caused. Both effective but can't see them working together well enough. Main doesnt read the flicks or layoffs but is a great defender for us. Forte needs replacing and Main to play wide left where he can blow out of his arse at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The area that needs addressing next is wide midfield, Jones and Forte are shadows of the players they were last season and are being carried at times, both look injured, Jones in particular just doesn't look right, Shez has strengthened the spine of the team which was a necessity but our main problem now in an attacking sense is out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The area that needs addressing next is wide midfield, Jones and Forte are shadows of the players they were last season and are being carried at times, both look injured, Jones in particular just doesn't look right, Shez has strengthened the spine of the team which was a necessity but our main problem now in an attacking sense is out wide. Agree with this. Since his return from injury, Forte appears to have lost his main asset - his lightning pace. Without it he doesn't pose defenders many problems. Jones doesn't look the player he was last year but isn't really a wide player anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-curtis-main-to-decide-on-return-from-oldham-athletic-1-7803263 Main's decision whether he returns to Doncaster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/doncaster-rovers/rovers-news/doncaster-rovers-curtis-main-to-decide-on-return-from-oldham-athletic-1-7803263 Main's decision whether he returns to Doncaster.... Got a feeling that he'll be pressured into going back as his contract runs to the end of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Got a feeling that he'll be pressured into going back as his contract runs to the end of next season. I don't know. He wan't playing, the fans don't like him. Seems he'd have to do very well to get a new deal. And that new deal looks like it would be in league 2. He's doing alright here, in a team that looks more likely to stay up. Whether or not we'll be able to meet his wage requirements he'll be catching the eye of other clubs, especially if he can start scoring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 What has happened to Cassidy? Didn't make the 18 on saturday? Could he be going out for his wages to be spent on another loan coming in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Agree with this. Since his return from injury, Forte appears to have lost his main asset - his lightning pace. Without it he doesn't pose defenders many problems. Jones doesn't look the player he was last year but isn't really a wide player anyway. That old, and incorrect, chestnut again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 That old, and incorrect, chestnut again... Maybe you could explain why it's incorrect then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Maybe you could explain why it's incorrect then? He is well used to playing wide for his previous clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 He is well used to playing wide for his previous clubs.Was it Dunn that said he preferred to play on the wing? And Shez's interview today said he was playing too wide in the first half on Saturday and Shez told him to play more centrally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Forte's best fifteen yards in from the left touch line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Forte's best fifteen yards in from the left touch line. We've already got a surplus in centre mid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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