jsslatic Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Don't look all that safe to me, and someone taller could still block your view, causing arguments. Why doesn't it look safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Why doesn't it look safe? Because the eyes and brain viewing it are attatched to BP1960. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Because the eyes and brain viewing it are attatched to BP1960. Have you ever thought of just locking yourself in a phonebox and having an argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Valentine Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Don't look all that safe to me, and someone taller could still block your view, causing arguments. Then move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Have you ever thought of just locking yourself in a phonebox and having an argument? No, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Anyway, it's a valid point. They don't look unsafe, unless youre BP1960. But hey, don't let that ruin your :censored: comment eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The interim report by Lord Justice Taylor was published relatively swiftly after the tragedy, in August 1989. It contained 43 separate recommendations, which were designed to be implemented immediately by all football league clubs by the beginning of the forthcoming season, 1989/90. The principal recommendations of the interim report were: A review of the terrace capacities in all grounds, with an immediate 15% reduction in ground capacities; Restrictions on the capacities of self-contained supporter pens; The opening of perimeter fence gates; A review of the Safety Certificates held by all Football League grounds; The creation of locally-based, multi-agency groups to advise on ground safety; Constant monitoring of crowd density by the police and stewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I never understand this whole debate. Terraces did not disappear after Hillsborough, they are still widely used in the lower leagues and all of us have stood safely on them in recent years.....sure crowds might be smaller in general but a full terrace at Crawley when Pompey or other big team is in town is surely no different. It's almost as though what happens in the Premier league is all the matters??!! Terracing isn't dangerous per se....and certainly not if you use modern versions like rail terracing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Don't look all that safe to me, and someone taller could still block your view, causing arguments. I wouldn't like to be sat behind Richard Osman at Fulham .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Don't look all that safe to me, and someone taller could still block your view, causing arguments. Surely there'd be less arguments where there's more freedom to move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Has there been any update on this? That thread about things you don't see anymore reminded me how much better standing is at games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Installation of rail seats costs about 4 times installation of standard plastic seats. So for us to get them we'd have to rip out the plastic seats and then pay four times as much to replace them. Doesn't sound like an odds on shot to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Installation of rail seats costs about 4 times installation of standard plastic seats. So for us to get them we'd have to rip out the plastic seats and then pay four times as much to replace them. Doesn't sound like an odds on shot to me We'd hardly need that many really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 We'd hardly need that many really. Crowdfunding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Crowdfunding. Now that is something I could definitely get behind. They could ask fans to pay a bit more towards a season ticket on the rail seating to cover the cost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 A 'safe standing' area would probably be the busiest part of the ground, especially if it only held say 500 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Installation of rail seats costs about 4 times installation of standard plastic seats. So for us to get them we'd have to rip out the plastic seats and then pay four times as much to replace them. Doesn't sound like an odds on shot to me I'd be interested to see what it would do to attendances if we tried it in a stand, RRE or Chaddy would make sense although the Main Stand might be an option if we're knocking it down anyway. I think attendances would improve although how significantly is difficult to tell. From my experience it makes the match much more of a social experience and adds a positive buzz around the stand. Edited November 16, 2016 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I'd be interested to see what it would do to attendances if we tried it in a stand, RRE or Chaddy would make sense although the Main Stand might be an option if we're knocking it down anyway. I think attendances would improve although how significantly is difficult to tell. From my experience it makes the match much more of a social experience and adds a positive buzz around the stand. Attendances would definitely improve. We're dying for something to differentiate us from the Manchester clubs apart from the fact we're :censored:e and they're not (I am enjoying watching this United slump, must be said). Standing at games would be that difference. Will attract young fans to the ground as will without a doubt. I think it would have to be the Chaddy lower tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Attendances would definitely improve. We're dying for something to differentiate us from the Manchester clubs apart from the fact we're :censored:e and they're not (I am enjoying watching this United slump, must be said). Standing at games would be that difference. Will attract young fans to the ground as will without a doubt. I think it would have to be the Chaddy lower tier. It doesn't attract that many to Rochdale games and they play better football than us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It doesn't attract that many to Rochdale games and they play better football than us... You don't know what crowds they'd get without terracing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Plus rochdale havent been denied the opportunity 30 years like we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 We'd hardly need that many really. But however many/few we need, it would cost 4 times as much as installing a seat. So the club should actually charge extra for standing. Would people pay extra? (Dave_Og - any figures for typical cost?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 But however many/few we need, it would cost 4 times as much as installing a seat. So the club should actually charge extra for standing. Would people pay extra? (Dave_Og - any figures for typical cost?) I'd pay more to stand. Although crowdfunding would surely be an option, like someone else said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Haven't had chance to read all this but perhaps a sensible option is that when the time comes to demolish the Main Stand (rumours have circulated for a while) then replace it with a terraced standing paddock, with numbers strictly limited for safety purposes (don't think numbers will be an issue for many a year or big cup games). This kills 2 birds with one stone:- 1) Satisfies the perceived wish of fans 2) Ensures you can easily build a new paddock within the "footprint" of the demolished Main Stand (would be much more difficult to build a new seated stand again due to the little room available for infrastructure because of houses on the road behind the stand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If the Main Stand was demolished, meaning there'd be nowhere to watch the game from the sides with an elevated view, my attendance would drop sharply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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