stewrat Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 How can playing less games bring in more money? How can having less games for your money make you more likely to buy a season ticket? Get the lie big enough and we won't notice? The Premier League has been allowed to take too much out of the game already. They should be told that they must have a 2nd team competition and that the Football league teams are not taking anymore crap from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCinWolves Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Be just our luck we will win promotion to the championship then it will 6 relegated that season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 A 60 team Football League Trophy? Who could be against that?? If they want fewer games to ease fixture congestion just get rid of the JPT... Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 If they want fewer games to ease fixture congestion just get rid of the JPT... Simple. And take the premier league teams out of the league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 And take the premier league teams out of the league cup. They might aswell get rid of the League Cup too given how much importance Premier League clubs attach to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Anything that results in fewer league games is a no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Income. Money. Horrible that that is the first concern in most minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
help_shiny Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 This would only get the votes if the PL shared more of it's zillions but that would obviously mean them having their B teams in which would be awful - & in itself lead to lower crowds due to zero away fans at many of their games. So Im pretty sure there's no chance of it happening but then again they must think they have a chance of getting it through.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
help_shiny Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 This would only get the votes if the PL shared more of it's zillions but that would obviously mean them having their B teams in which would be awful - & in itself lead to lower crowds due to zero away fans at many of their games. So Im pretty sure there's no chance of it happening but then again they must think they have a chance of getting it through.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Less games would potentially mean clubs could have smaller squads less travel costs of 4 away games. A smaller league might mean a more competitive league as promotion and relegation are that bit closer. If the bottom 2 leagues were regional then perhaps it's a goer. However it's offset by the loss of 4 home games. It won't make much difference either way it won't be "another nail in the coffin of lower league football" people who say this need to learn to shut up they have been saying this since the dawn of time and we are still all here pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Instinctively, if the Premier League agree to it, I know it isn't in the best interests of clubs of Latics' kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 would need to alter the play offs at the same time 6th play away at 5th winner gets to play 4th away for the right to play 3rd in the final more incentive to finnish higher especialy 3rd place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Instinctively, if the Premier League agree to it, I know it isn't in the best interests of clubs of Latics' kind. What I don't get is how they say it will be beneficial on an international basis. league 1 and 2 players are not internationals and it's not like we are suddenly going to be able to sell the rights for league 1 to the overseas either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 If they introduce premier B teams then I honestly think I'm done with football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Income. Money. Horrible that that is the first concern in most minds. Unfortunately that is football these days - you need both to survive and so they become all important Football is a business and that is how business works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I think the Premier League are finding us lower league oiks stubbornly obstructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunty Blue Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) The loss for me is the beauty of a night match. That first time. The cool night air, the floodlights drawing the crowd like moths to a flame, the bovril somehow smelling stronger, the grass greener as you emerge from the bowel of the stand, the shirts somehow brighter, the voices carrying further, the words lingering, the net rippling slightly more, the feeling of that first time. Stays forever. Now, potentially lost and denied to many a youngster. Mind you, I won't miss the yellow gloom of Vale away and the drive home muttering about another bitter to take result...... Edited May 19, 2016 by Bunty Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The loss for me is the beauty of a night match. That first time. The cool night air, the floodlights drawing the crowd like moths to a flame, the bovril somehow smelling stronger, the grass greener as you emerge from the bowel of the stand, the shirts somehow brighter, the voices carrying further, the words lingering, the net rippling slightly more, the feeling of that first time. Stays forever. Now, potentially lost and denied to many a youngster. Mind you, I won't miss the yellow gloom of Vale away and the drive home muttering about another bitter to take result...... It doesn't have to be that way the PL play 38 games and still have midweek games. Plus league cup JPT and FA Cup replays played then. Plus it gives us the option of a mid season break say between the FA Cup 3rd and 4th rounds this will give pitches and players time to recover. Playing less games would give us flexibility when games are played. With the exception of last season I've got to March and April and for the past 6-7 seasons I've been bored we are too far from the top 6 and usually safe from relegation the players just seem to go through the motions too as their thoughts appear to be on holiday destinations. Taking a few teams out will make it that abit more interesting. I'm not saying it's the salvation to lower league football but aslong as it doesn't lead to PL B teams coming in I'm fairly happy to go along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunty Blue Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Fair point GlossopLatic. Do you think it's a step towards regional divisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think a shakeup is required. But any shakeup won't benefit the smaller teams, just the big boys (as always). Glossop makes some excellent points though. It often gets very boring from March onwards as more teams have less to play for. It often means these teams are easier to play when teams that have got something riding on it play them. As someone mentioned further up. A B-team introduction would be a massive death knell to my interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Fair point GlossopLatic. Do you think it's a step towards regional divisions?I don't know If it was upto me I would say we should have 3 national leagues of 20 (4 if you count the PL) and 2 north and south leagues of 20 and regionalise it from that point down. The like of Accrington Stanley are better off playing the likes of Halifax Southport and Morecambe rather than long treks to Exeter and Torquay. Back in my uni days I did a study on our attendances for the 2000-01 season a year which was a very southern based league 1. We found for every mile further a team travelled to a game, it reduced the attendance by 11 people. After 160 miles it flattened out as people prepared to travel that far were the die hards who would travel 200-250 miles to watch their team but I think it proved regional leagues lower down the football pyramid should be seriously looked at. I can see why people have concerns on this the fact that the PL backs this, is more concerning than reassuring when you look at their last proposal of B teams in the FL. But I do believe the football league should look at inovating it's competition we should be open minded to it, lets see what the discusions bring. Edited May 20, 2016 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Bollocks to it. It's about Premier B teams, Celtic and Rangers and a series of illogical claims that don't stack up. My first instinct was that it was an interesting initiative. I'm now convinced it's for all the wrong reasons and is a load of :censored:e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 B teams might be on the menu but when it comes to the crunch nobody will ever order it. I don't really know if there is a bigger picture with these proposals, we do know that the quality of football is dropping because we see it with our own eyes, would playing less games help? Don't know but it is probably worth looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think it's a non-starter needing 90% approval. A t least a couple of club chairmen (Accrington and Bradford) have already said there is no way they'll support it due to the reduction in the number home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It has to get approval by 90% of football clubs, if PL B teams is part of the proposal then it will get vetoed by the FL clubs, most won't back it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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