BP1960 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Dan Gardner was absolutely :censored:e on Saturday. He's still playing league football though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 I said during Holloway's loan spell that he'll play at a higher level and I still believe that. Just looking at his goals/game ratio is short-sighted. He's the sort of player who would enable a decent striker alongside him the opportunity to score :censored:loads. I do appreciate his skills, but which striker in his career has done that alongside him Steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He knows what he's getting with Holloway, I assume by that you mean very few goals. So the manager sometimes gets things wrong, that's a surprise. You're having a bit of a shocker here BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I do appreciate his skills, but which striker in his career has done that alongside him Steve? He's never been a regular starter anywhere, BP and is only 23. I'm saying he has the attributes to make a striking partner's life a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He's still playing league football though. So is Holloway. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 So is Holloway. What's your point? What's yours first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What's yours first? Was midway through typing exactly that haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 That BP often has a view on a player which is then done to death over and over again. He thought Dan Gardner was great but he seems to be nothing special at all. Holloway is apparently :censored:e. Ngoo is the potential saviour on the basis of one game that BP didn't see, the fact that he is tall and a fictitious goalscoring ratio in Scotland. If Gardner is good because he is playing league football then by that logic so is Holloway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakerT Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 BP1960, don't rise to it bud..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 You're having a bit of a shocker here BP. In your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) That BP often has a view on a player which is then done to death over and over again. He thought Dan Gardner was great but he seems to be nothing special at all. Holloway is apparently :censored:e. Ngoo is the potential saviour on the basis of one game that BP didn't see, the fact that he is tall and a fictitious goalscoring ratio in Scotland. If Gardner is good because he is playing league football then by that logic so is Holloway. 1. I said Gardner was better than non league when he was at Droylsden. I was proved correct. By the same token I said Matt Smith was poor at Droylsden. Got that one wrong as it turns out he's had a good league career. 2. I praised Holloway for for his skill on the ball, but not his goalscoring ability. 3. I never said Ngoo will be our saviour, just give him a chance seeing as the rest aren't finding the net with any regularity. Don't rewrite my posts to suit your own opinion. Edited February 9, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 after 100 plus games people still defended Connor Browns 'attributes' on here. its a game of opinions but as far as player evaluation goes on here especially after less than 90 minutes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 That BP often has a view on a player which is then done to death over and over again. He thought Dan Gardner was great but he seems to be nothing special at all. Holloway is apparently :censored:e. Ngoo is the potential saviour on the basis of one game that BP didn't see, the fact that he is tall and a fictitious goalscoring ratio in Scotland. If Gardner is good because he is playing league football then by that logic so is Holloway. The nature of non league football is that it's hard to differentiate between the ones who can make it and those who can't, such is the step up and what it requires. To spot a player who could operate at this level is impressive in itself - Gardner has had at least two seasons in this division around the first team. The rest is up to the player, naturally. I'm not defending BP's views on Holloway and Ngoo - I haven't read much of them in truth - but a scout can only do so much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Are you saying rather than signing Holloway we should have gone for someone with, say 41 goals in 82 games, who would have ensured we won all 5 of the games he's played in for us, has scored in every game he's played for us (or failing that, at least half of them), has never been injured and is never gong to be injured and was ever present for the team in this division we were going to sign him from? He sounds ace - what's his name and how much will he cost My point is that is exactly what some seem to want to believe we have signed.....he is a million miles off. He is not particularly quick, he is hardly prolific, he doesn't play very often, he couldn't get a game in this division, apart from one game for Fleetwood the highest level he has ever played at is 18 th in our league........as I say I have reservations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 My point is that is exactly what some seem to want to believe we have signedWho thinks that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 after 100 plus games people still defended Connor Browns 'attributes' on here. :censored:ing hell, let it go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 My point is that is exactly what some seem to want to believe we have signed Which posters seem to want believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 My point is that is exactly what some seem to want to believe we have signed.....he is a million miles off. He is not particularly quick, he is hardly prolific, he doesn't play very often, he couldn't get a game in this division, apart from one game for Fleetwood the highest level he has ever played at is 18 th in our league........as I say I have reservations 6 wins from his 15 games suggests he's having a fairly positive effect on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Who thinks that? ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) The nature of non league football is that it's hard to differentiate between the ones who can make it and those who can't, such is the step up and what it requires. To spot a player who could operate at this level is impressive in itself - Gardner has had at least two seasons in this division around the first team. The rest is up to the player, naturally. I'm not defending BP's views on Holloway and Ngoo - I haven't read much of them in truth - but a scout can only do so much... You are correct, no one gets them all right, you will often find professional scouts, coaches and managers have differing opinions on the same player.Fans are the same. I'm retired now, but was retained by several top flight clubs over a period of 30 years and had offers to join this club, so must have been doing something right. Whether Ngoo can do a job is open to question, the manager signed him so he must have some faith in his ability. Do fans wish to slag off him too? Edited February 9, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Who thinks that? From this thread alone. " his hold up play is brilliant" " he is a classy footballer" " has a lovely light touch and control" " he'll play at a higher level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Who thinks that? From this thread alone. " his hold up play is brilliant" " he is a classy footballer" " has a lovely light touch and control" " he'll play at a higher level And, in answer to his question "who thinks that?"................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 And, in answer to his question "who thinks that?"................? Translate ideas not words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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