whitey1980 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Whilst I agree with some of the comments about the 'banter' that sections of our support give the players, some of the supportive comments about Ngoo's performance are overblown IMHO. There were a number of factors that changed the game in that 25 minute spell. The entire front 6 started to press which in turn moved us 20 yards up the pitch and pressure their midfield who had run the game. He did give us a focal point but much of that was simply him being at the point of the attack rather than any particular act of quality on his behalf. As we had nobody to do that job previously it did improve the shape of the team and allowed us to play. For a player with his junior pedigree some of his movement is terrible. His run for the Mclaughlin goal was a case in point. Until he fell over he had dragged both centre halves right into the space that we were breaking into. Gassed or not he offered next to nothing in the final 15 minutes and as the team stopped pressing he became wholly ineffective and certainly not calable of holding the ball up. Seems like a decent team man judging by the celebrations and like many would love to be proved wrong. I just don't see it and still feel we are really short in that area if he has to provide more than 10 minute 'shock' cameos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Ngoo probably won't want to play for us much more if he keeps coming on as sub and receiving a zulu esque chant of his name. It isn't done affectionately either as people can't make their mind up whether he's any good or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Ngoo probably won't want to play for us much more if he keeps coming on as sub and receiving a zulu esque chant of his name. It isn't done affectionately either as people can't make their mind up whether he's any good or not. Get a grip ffs... When we did the same for a bald white bloke from Yorkshire whose name also rhymed with "oo" was that "zulu-esque" aswell? I'm sure Ngoo thanks you for contriving to be offended on his behalf. Edited February 12, 2017 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Ngoo - he is Carlton Palmer meets Meadowlark Lemon on a football pitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Ngoo - he is Carlton Palmer meets Meadowlark Lemon on a football pitch... I was thinking Moses Hightower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Got a mate who is a Bromley fan who reckons he is one of the worst players he's seen. Came on at 70 minutes for them and was knackered by 85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Got a mate who is a Bromley fan who reckons he is one of the worst players he's seen. Came on at 70 minutes for them and was knackered by 85. Think if I'd not played for a year or whatever it was, my fitness would be pretty :censored:e too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Think if I'd not played for a year or whatever it was, my fitness would be pretty :censored:e too Match fitness is a complete myth. Match sharpness I can go along with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Match fitness is a complete myth. Match sharpness I can go along with. I'm talking actual fitness. He's obviously not been training full time until quite recently. So I'd imagine his actual fitness was well behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm talking actual fitness. He's obviously not been training full time until quite recently. So I'd imagine his actual fitness was well behind Anyone can get fit and maintain it - I doubt he was sat around doing nowt whilst injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Anyone can get fit and maintain it - I doubt he was sat around doing nowt whilst injured. With not being at a professional club he may not have had access to the same treatment etc and same support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Got a mate who is a Bromley fan who reckons he is one of the worst players he's seen. Came on at 70 minutes for them and was knackered by 85. Interesting that he's reached that conclusion after seeing him play for a whole 20 minutes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Got a mate who is a Bromley fan who reckons he is one of the worst players he's seen. Came on at 70 minutes for them and was knackered by 85. Sheridan should definitely listen to your mate more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Get a grip ffs... When we did the same for a bald white bloke from Yorkshire whose name also rhymed with "oo" was that "zulu-esque" aswell? I'm sure Ngoo thanks you for contriving to be offended on his behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thats a poor poor comparison. I'll get a grip while you grasp at straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm still not sure what his game is. If you told him we were setting the team up to suit his style, what would he like? Genuinely interested. Our joint Latics/Hearts fan and his mates weren't glowing about him when I asked on Facebook but let's give him a chance. It's intriguing at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thats a poor poor comparison. I'll get a grip while you grasp at straws. The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 If it wasn't so commonplace in all sports, even for white players, I'd also be questioning the Ngoo chant, but it is so I haven't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm still not sure what his game is. If you told him we were setting the team up to suit his style, what would he like? Genuinely interested. Our joint Latics/Hearts fan and his mates weren't glowing about him when I asked on Facebook but let's give him a chance. It's intriguing at least After a serious injury it's obvious he isnt the prospect he was at Southend, Liverpool and England under 20s. I think Shez has given him a chance in the hope he can make a good recovery and add something different to the squad. That sounds fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 If it wasn't so commonplace in all sports, even for white players, I'd also be questioning the Ngoo chant, but it is so I haven't... I think you probably should to be honest...the use of "even for white players" opens a real can of worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racistArsenal fans used to regularly shout petit at Emmanual Petite in the sane we shout Ngoo. Bolton fans used to chant Fish to Mark Fish in the same way. I'm sure Ngoo knows it's a term of affection. Plus the way he celebrated with the team during both goals in the second half and at full time was that of a player who wants to be here. Edited February 12, 2017 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racist Was it racist when it was directed at a white bloke called Luke? If not, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Don't Scare Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racist What the :censored:? He didn't seem to mind when he was flailing his arms around like a drowning fisherman during the goal celebration. He might be a bit :censored: but the fact remains he's useful. Racist? Do me a favour Oooooooh Roger Palmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Arsenal fans used to regularly shout petit at Emmanual Petite in the sane we shout Ngoo. Bolton fans used to chant Fish to Mark Fish in the same way. I'm sure Ngoo knows it's a term of affection. Plus the way he celebrated with the team during both goals in the second half and at full time was that of a player who wants to be here. Blimey Glossop " I'm sure he knows it's a term of affection" .......come on shoe shine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist I'd argue the person who could conceive of such a ludicrous train of thought was the racist. It didn't even occur to anybody else until you and Paddock came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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